[The Urban Sombrero]

Didn't he get to the party a couple centuries after our founding? I mean, he wasn't even born until 1921. :biglmao:

At what point is that relevant? If the issue is revolution v. progress and growth, it would only be logical to move beyond, for instance, slavery and women as second class citizens to, to a more "highest calling" understanding of our creeds. You are reaching, friendo, and it's sad.