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03-24-2017, 01:24 AM
Ball Dad, I totally disagree with your statement that you don't need plays to win, however depending upon what level you coach at it might pass. But you need plays to win at the state high school and state and national AAU championships. Many matchups at different are clearly unbalanced. Take Butlers 82-3 win over Iroquois. They didn't have to run anything and was going to win.
If would agree that if you are coaching a young group of kids say 3-8th grade and/or recruited an AAU or travel team for that purpose you might be able to win consistently without running plays. There are also different levels of tournaments that an AAU or travel team can sign up to be a part of, depending upon the tournaments you signed up to play in the competition could have been weak or strong, only you know that.
At the high school level no matter who you face at the end of the year, everyone is matched up and only the strong really survive. So there is really no subjective measurement, during that time to access your level of competition against everyone else. You either continuing winning or you go home.
If you watch the NCAA tournament tonight or the rest of the way, watch the different play calls against man and zone and athletes will show their athleticism, but I also believe the teams that run their sets best with their athletes, will win the championship.
Would you like to disclose what level you coached (Age Group), or was it high school. Would you also like to disclose what tournaments you played in? Was your season over if you lost a tournament or did you get to try again the following weekend. Were these tournaments equivalent to regional, and Sweet 16 type games at the high school level, where only the best teams throughout the state were left in contention? I also know that there was a coach in the Sweet 16 this year that has historically relied on pressing and turning teams over and blowing them out of gym, however that team ran into a buzz saw, when they met a team that broke their pressure and made them look silly in half-court defense with their multiple offensive sets. The more athletic team lost.
If I am not mistaken each week in AAU tourneys there is a 1st place Gold, Silver, and Bronze division.
Regardless we can agree to disagree.
If would agree that if you are coaching a young group of kids say 3-8th grade and/or recruited an AAU or travel team for that purpose you might be able to win consistently without running plays. There are also different levels of tournaments that an AAU or travel team can sign up to be a part of, depending upon the tournaments you signed up to play in the competition could have been weak or strong, only you know that.
At the high school level no matter who you face at the end of the year, everyone is matched up and only the strong really survive. So there is really no subjective measurement, during that time to access your level of competition against everyone else. You either continuing winning or you go home.
If you watch the NCAA tournament tonight or the rest of the way, watch the different play calls against man and zone and athletes will show their athleticism, but I also believe the teams that run their sets best with their athletes, will win the championship.
Would you like to disclose what level you coached (Age Group), or was it high school. Would you also like to disclose what tournaments you played in? Was your season over if you lost a tournament or did you get to try again the following weekend. Were these tournaments equivalent to regional, and Sweet 16 type games at the high school level, where only the best teams throughout the state were left in contention? I also know that there was a coach in the Sweet 16 this year that has historically relied on pressing and turning teams over and blowing them out of gym, however that team ran into a buzz saw, when they met a team that broke their pressure and made them look silly in half-court defense with their multiple offensive sets. The more athletic team lost.
If I am not mistaken each week in AAU tourneys there is a 1st place Gold, Silver, and Bronze division.
Regardless we can agree to disagree.
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AAU influence on High School Basketball - by brassmonkeys - 03-23-2017, 02:53 PM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by 14thregionref - 03-23-2017, 03:22 PM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by Coachinthestands - 03-23-2017, 06:21 PM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by Ball Dad - 03-23-2017, 11:17 PM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by kygamer - 03-23-2017, 11:29 PM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by brassmonkeys - 03-23-2017, 11:53 PM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by Ball Dad - 03-24-2017, 12:35 AM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by brassmonkeys - 03-24-2017, 01:24 AM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by Ball Dad - 03-24-2017, 02:25 AM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by Boogie - 03-27-2017, 03:41 PM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by 14thregionref - 03-27-2017, 05:09 PM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by hoghead - 03-28-2017, 09:35 PM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by cj2561 - 03-29-2017, 01:47 AM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by cj2561 - 03-29-2017, 01:50 AM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by new o - 03-29-2017, 04:04 PM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by Coachinthestands - 03-30-2017, 03:19 PM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by new o - 03-30-2017, 06:16 PM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by Coachinthestands - 03-30-2017, 08:05 PM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by new o - 03-30-2017, 11:51 PM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by Maroons - 03-31-2017, 12:36 AM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by brassmonkeys - 03-31-2017, 04:58 AM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by Coachinthestands - 03-31-2017, 02:30 PM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by brassmonkeys - 03-31-2017, 03:01 PM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by Maroons - 03-31-2017, 05:20 PM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by Maroons - 03-31-2017, 05:23 PM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by brassmonkeys - 03-31-2017, 07:04 PM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by Coachinthestands - 03-31-2017, 07:50 PM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by new o - 04-01-2017, 11:43 PM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by Maroons - 04-02-2017, 04:42 AM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by BallerFromTheHoller - 04-02-2017, 05:21 AM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by Maroons - 04-02-2017, 01:28 PM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by new o - 04-02-2017, 01:41 PM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by Maroons - 04-02-2017, 02:01 PM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by BallerFromTheHoller - 04-02-2017, 05:50 PM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by Maroons - 04-02-2017, 09:41 PM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by BallerFromTheHoller - 04-03-2017, 01:36 AM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by GeneralMojo - 04-03-2017, 02:19 AM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by brassmonkeys - 04-03-2017, 03:09 AM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by BallerFromTheHoller - 04-03-2017, 03:10 AM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by Maroons - 04-04-2017, 04:12 AM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by BallerFromTheHoller - 04-05-2017, 12:16 AM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by Maroons - 04-05-2017, 01:44 PM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by BallerFromTheHoller - 04-05-2017, 07:01 PM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by Maroons - 04-05-2017, 07:31 PM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by Granny Bear - 04-05-2017, 08:49 PM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by BallerFromTheHoller - 04-05-2017, 11:26 PM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by Maroons - 04-06-2017, 02:58 AM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by Passtheball - 04-06-2017, 03:48 AM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by brassmonkeys - 04-06-2017, 02:40 PM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by Big Hammer - 04-06-2017, 04:42 PM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by Big Hammer - 04-06-2017, 04:51 PM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by Granny Bear - 04-06-2017, 06:11 PM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by BallerFromTheHoller - 04-06-2017, 08:23 PM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by Maroons - 04-06-2017, 10:00 PM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by Maroons - 04-06-2017, 10:02 PM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by BallerFromTheHoller - 04-06-2017, 10:11 PM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by Big Hammer - 04-06-2017, 11:51 PM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by BallerFromTheHoller - 04-07-2017, 01:16 AM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by Warthog - 04-07-2017, 02:25 AM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by BallerFromTheHoller - 04-07-2017, 03:35 AM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by Passtheball - 04-07-2017, 10:21 PM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by BallerFromTheHoller - 04-07-2017, 11:46 PM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by Big Hammer - 04-08-2017, 02:53 AM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by brassmonkeys - 04-08-2017, 10:23 PM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by Passtheball - 04-08-2017, 11:39 PM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by brassmonkeys - 04-09-2017, 12:24 AM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by BallerFromTheHoller - 04-14-2017, 06:14 AM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by Maroons - 04-14-2017, 12:05 PM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by new o - 04-14-2017, 01:11 PM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by brassmonkeys - 04-14-2017, 02:36 PM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by Big Hammer - 04-14-2017, 03:15 PM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by Passtheball - 04-14-2017, 04:16 PM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by brassmonkeys - 04-14-2017, 05:56 PM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by new o - 04-14-2017, 08:23 PM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by BallerFromTheHoller - 04-16-2017, 02:31 AM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by Maroons - 04-16-2017, 03:33 AM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by BallerFromTheHoller - 04-16-2017, 07:16 AM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by Megget - 04-23-2017, 02:45 AM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by brassmonkeys - 04-23-2017, 04:10 AM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by Maroons - 04-23-2017, 01:21 PM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by Maroons - 04-23-2017, 01:23 PM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by new o - 04-23-2017, 01:51 PM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by TheRock - 04-28-2017, 05:45 PM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by Megget - 05-05-2017, 10:27 PM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by brassmonkeys - 05-06-2017, 06:04 PM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by Maroons - 05-06-2017, 08:05 PM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by magicfan217 - 05-08-2017, 04:35 AM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by brassmonkeys - 05-08-2017, 02:39 PM
AAU influence on High School Basketball - by RingKing - 08-13-2017, 07:50 PM
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