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Sourge of Liberalism is World Wide
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TheRealThing Wrote:Sorry but no, I won't. I do not believe verses 2-4 describe backslidden Christians or Christians whose love has waxed cold, rather these are men as they are in the last days. I did not initially belabor the point by including verse 4, but not one of the 19 descriptive terms used in 2 Tim 3:2-4 would not be applicable to men in our time. 'Unholy' for example, means men will profane God in their conversation, Hollywood loves to profane God. 'Without natural affection' means men will embrace abnormal relationships, do I really need to go into what that means again?

I must have missed the part of the Timothy text that says anything about tepid water and being 'spat' out, the correct verse applicable to that situation is Rev 3:16. At any rate, you seem to have been saying that the true Church either can be or will be, led into some sort of cultic deception. A view with which I completely disagree.
Matthew 24:24 (KJV)
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

There a re two groups the Bible refers to as elect. The first is the Church, the second is the nation Israel. Matthew 24:24 is speaking of the elect of Israel. They are Jews as yet unsaved, and do not have the spiritual discernment afforded the saved by the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. I do not believe it is possible for the true Church to be taken in by any charlatan or false prophet. Paul says the following on the subject;
Romans 8:38-39 (KJV)
38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Say what you want, but the forces of death, life, angels, demons, etc., are far more powerful than partisan politics or a dead guy named Constantine who just happened to have legalized Christianity in Rome. Your argument is completely without merit, OR spiritual basis.

BTW, while we're extoling or slamming Presidential moral virtues, did 500,000 people die at the hand of Assad?

The folks of the "two Timothy" passage you cite are of the sort featured on TBNianity.

Question: the actions of Assad: how do they relate to the multiple wives of a President who deemed that power and wealth entitle a man to grab a female's genitalia, as opposed to a President of but one wife? I am, as I said, making no claim for some kind of moral perfection in former President Obama. That was never the issue. The issue was how the partisan swallows a camel but strains out a gnat. Now, a trailer load of straw later, here we are.

Does an acknowledgement of God without a serious pursuit of Him end up any better than a renunciation of God in favor of Man seeking to perfect himself? Water sprayed at a fire that misses the blaze by 100 feet no more extinguishes it than a stream that misses by a thousand.
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Sourge of Liberalism is World Wide - by The Urban Sombrero - 02-28-2017, 05:11 AM
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