[TheRealThing]

- Ah, so it's only policy you care about, and not character. You often confuse quantity of verbage for quality and precision of debate. Note: it is not a lie to point out the audio tape. It is not a lie to point out his refusal to make public his tax records.

- My points have had zero to do with President Trump's policy designs. He won the election. This current debate we are having is concerning a wide-eyed, highly partisan, gung-ho get on board cheerleading as it pertains to the Christian faith and this world's politics. When President Trump continually says things like, "Nobody loves the Jews as much as me" and other egocentric, megalomaniac-sounding prattle, it gives a person pause for thought. Keeping a healthy skepticism about this world's political scene, no matter what faction holds power, is surely also your mindset.

- No actually I cared about the fact that one of only two possible candidates would certainly become President, and I lined up on the side of the one who would preserve the lives of he unborn; And who further vowed to uphold the conservative values of our rather recent past, which IMO, he has done. In your manifold defenses of the past administration you said the political shenanigans to which were attached the daily news distortions, were nothing more than politics as usual. But this administration must be somehow different, as you act like your delicate moral sensitivities can barely withstand an occasional skipping glance off the daily news cycle. As I have pointed out on numerous occasions, there have been precious few Presidents to come along in my entire lifetime I thought to be a Christian. If we all waited until Pastor material were to run, we'd never be able to vote. You argue vehemently for strict obedience in the matter of separation of Church and State. But absent proof that would satisfy standards required by the court, you refused to make judgments about the characters and motivations of the last administration, you nonetheless have no compunction to that end in making moral judgments about those in this administration.

- Your view is limited. One cannot un-know the things which have been revealed to him by God. Faith and familiarity with God's Word, guide understanding in political matters as It does in understanding current events in general. Just as the Word provides perspective in matters such as the lies of Evolution and global warming. God created all things, they are not the result of organic matter languishing for aeons in some kind of primordial matrix, said matrix itself the result of the explosion of a singular space rock. And Global warming, if it exists at all, must then be controlled by the Lord Himself as no mention of such calamity is mentioned in Scripture. The opposite in fact is the case;

AFTER THE GREAT FLOOD
Genesis 8:21&22 (KJV)
21 And the LORD smelled a sweet savour; and the LORD said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man's sake; for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done.
22 While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease.


"Marrying one's politics and one's faith in some partisan love affair is unwise" ---Sombrero

Marriage makes a man and woman 'one flesh' in the eyes of God. Separating life from each other from that point onward would be unnatural and destructive. Truth in like manner is the marriage of reality, and trying to divorce segments of truth destroys it's accuracy and God's natural interface for same. So the act of separating, divorcing or partitioning off truth is what I believe to be unwise. Mr Fundamental thinks Christendom today should sell off every possession and give it all (I suppose) in lump sum to the poor. The Church depicted in the Book of Acts is one which had it's eyes opened fully to the reality of the right relationship between Spiritual and secular truths, and acted accordingly. Today we have God's finished Word, something the Church did not yet have at the time of the Acts of the Apostles, which was likely written before AD 62. And The Revelation was not finished until around AD 85. The point is that those of the early Church (in Acts) probably believed Christ would return in their lifetime.

The more history marches forward, the more that is revealed from the prophetic texts. I believe man has arrived at the time depicted in
2 Timothy 3:2-3 (KJV)
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,

Further as we are obviously still here, there is some amount of time remaining in the age of grace, though I believe the contempt and vitriol seen in the press and in the halls of government are happening in concurrent fashion. The likely fact is that we are in the last days as laid out the above verses in 2 Timothy.