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11-27-2016, 08:57 PM
mr.fundamental Wrote:The long established right... an inaccurate statement in that one bud. The party of Lincoln is now the democratic party. Think about it before you respond, Lincoln was for a strong union, basically getting rid of states rights, people make it about slavery, but it was even then the economy. The 13th, 14th amendment saw the end of that, basically in my view knocking out the 10th amendment, Case and point Gay marriage, we can hash that out if you want to, but there is no point.
Conservative values, traditional marriage, for an example, went out the door when people voted for a man divorced 3 times for president.
Christian values went out the door when profits come before people. Taking care of the environment plays second fiddle to profits. I will gladly have that debate with you.
Economic principles went out the door when it was said to get rid of free trade. Donald Trump's calling card...which by the way I am worried about for my state of Kentucky which exports 4 billion dollars to Canada and Mexico, thanks to NAFTA.
So in my estimation there are no more established right, only power, use God, Guns, Gays, whatever it takes. Now the "conservative" party have it, and I hope it is not a repeat of 2000-2008, I hope for my state we don't follow the likes of Kansas, or any state in the South for that matter, with maybe the exception of Georgia.
What say you?
I will respond to the other interesting comments in the next post.
I say you are filled with the misconceptions of the revisionist left. You will notice that I am usually careful to preface my use of the term conservative with the word 'traditionally.' The conservatives of today are a hollow and powerless lot by comparison to the traditionally conservative statesmen of America's illustrious past. But just because they have become feckless and neutered by their continual compromises with the left, does not mean that I am anywhere near ready to concede defeat. I refuse the embrace the leper, liberalism, especially when I know the cure is just a matter of spiritual awakening and repentance.
Past that I prefer to temper my criticisms of the candidate in question with a healthy deference to pragmatism. You say you're a Baptist. If that's the case I won't need to elaborate by way of lengthy explanation of that which I am about to say. We just elected a President. He does not therefore, need to meet the same set of character regimen that a pulpit committee may be seeking in a potential new pastor. He just has to be a good leader who loves this nation, accepts the providence of God in the general sense if not personally, respects the laws of the land and will defend the people with his entire being. If Trump does that, religious liberty and all other forms of liberty are in no further danger.
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