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Presidential Debate #2
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TheRealThing Wrote:Well I'm not saying I know what a tome is, but you really aren't as skilled in sidestepping as you might think. But to indulge you for just a second before moving on to highlighting the truth again, I don't know whether you've heard or not but the election isn't quite over and it's a bit early for you to claim victory.

I have been on the media's case since I came on this forum, pointing out their methods in trying to manipulate and marginalize the citizenry. Obviously I couldn't prove what I was saying and then along came WikiLeaks and not only were the press engaged in trying to manipulate the vote, they actively colluded with the DNC. Further, they have a playbook which details methods to oversample certain groups to produce false polls. You mocked me for suggesting the polls were messed with as I recall. I don't trust the media or the polls, and I certainly am not ready to concede the election to the Dems yet. But you I believe, would rather be right, even if that meant the transformation will go forward.

You are right to say that I was never among the #NeverTrumpsters. It really is laughable to read your continuing attempts to act like you inhabit the moral and intellectual high ground as you tell me it's too late moderate my position of support for Mr Trump as if I were making a prodigal and penitent approach to your good graces. All while ignoring the gist of my factual post which was to point out there was no dodging the tsunami of lies I had predicted the media would spew out like a flood. As far as I'm concerned you're part of it as your posts on here clearly demonstrate. I have offered an alternative view for which you have gone into obit for my questioning whatever clairvoyant force you use to make all these dire predictions about Trump. I am content to wait and see what happens on Nov 8th.
The outcome of this election will not be a victory for anybody, as I have said repeatedly. With two horrible candidates vying for the presidency, how could anybody be in a celebratory mood on election night?

Clairvoyance is not required to understand that Trump and Hillary are the two worst political candidates of our lifetime, just a little common sense and some understanding of human nature. At there core, Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton have changed very little over the course of their adult lives. To think that one of them underwent a complete personality makeover when he declared himself a religious, conservative, Republican presidential candidate was nothing more than wishful thinking by his ardent supporters.

The gap between the two candidates in the polls will very likely narrow over the next two weeks because pollsters are judged on the accuracy of their final polls. What won't change is that Republicans should have won the upcoming election in a cakewalk, and they would have done so if they nominated almost anybody other than Donald Trump.
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Presidential Debate #2 - by Granny Bear - 10-10-2016, 05:50 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-10-2016, 06:04 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Granny Bear - 10-10-2016, 09:29 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-10-2016, 09:53 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Granny Bear - 10-10-2016, 10:59 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-11-2016, 02:08 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Granny Bear - 10-11-2016, 02:17 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-11-2016, 02:43 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-11-2016, 03:01 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Granny Bear - 10-11-2016, 03:21 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Motley - 10-11-2016, 02:15 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Granny Bear - 10-11-2016, 02:58 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Motley - 10-11-2016, 03:12 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-11-2016, 03:27 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-11-2016, 08:03 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Bob Seger - 10-11-2016, 09:40 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by vector - 10-11-2016, 10:30 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-11-2016, 11:40 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-12-2016, 04:40 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-12-2016, 04:57 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-12-2016, 05:05 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Bob Seger - 10-12-2016, 05:11 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-12-2016, 05:17 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-12-2016, 05:32 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-12-2016, 06:40 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-12-2016, 07:05 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-12-2016, 09:58 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-12-2016, 11:11 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-13-2016, 03:46 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-13-2016, 04:00 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-13-2016, 04:28 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-13-2016, 07:54 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-13-2016, 10:18 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-14-2016, 02:22 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-14-2016, 03:04 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-14-2016, 04:02 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-14-2016, 04:24 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-14-2016, 04:29 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-14-2016, 04:32 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by LeeCoUKFan - 10-20-2016, 06:48 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-21-2016, 01:36 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 10-21-2016, 10:40 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-21-2016, 05:06 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-21-2016, 08:07 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 10-22-2016, 02:07 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 10-22-2016, 04:03 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Granny Bear - 10-22-2016, 06:43 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 10-22-2016, 10:07 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Granny Bear - 10-24-2016, 04:07 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-24-2016, 05:01 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 10-24-2016, 11:12 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-25-2016, 03:36 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 10-25-2016, 07:49 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Granny Bear - 10-25-2016, 02:44 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-25-2016, 03:47 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-25-2016, 09:04 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 10-26-2016, 01:29 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 10-26-2016, 01:36 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 10-26-2016, 01:45 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-26-2016, 04:15 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 10-26-2016, 08:52 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-26-2016, 04:39 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by vector - 10-26-2016, 05:04 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-26-2016, 05:32 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-26-2016, 08:12 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-26-2016, 11:42 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-27-2016, 03:48 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-27-2016, 05:21 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-27-2016, 05:50 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-27-2016, 06:23 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-27-2016, 06:41 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-27-2016, 07:31 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-27-2016, 08:41 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 10-27-2016, 11:48 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-27-2016, 06:50 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-27-2016, 06:53 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 10-27-2016, 07:12 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Granny Bear - 10-27-2016, 07:21 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 10-27-2016, 07:48 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-27-2016, 09:07 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-27-2016, 09:27 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 10-27-2016, 10:42 PM

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