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10-22-2016, 04:03 PM
TheRealThing Wrote:You know Hoot, there's only one guy whose actions you can at least partially control, yourself. The people of this land have finally come out of the fogbank and their reaction was to nominate DJT. I understand your frustration, but that ship has sailed.Aside from Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump has lied more than any presidential candidate in my lifetime. When people back candidates who blatantly lie to them in the face of clear, incontrovertible video and audio documentation that they are lying, then they get exactly the government that they deserve. (The latest example came during the third debate, when Trump denied that he ever suggested that Japan and Saudi Arabia should develop their own nukes so that they can defend themselves.)
I first realized the media had become proactively involved in the American political process during the Reagan years. Since that time their propagandist activities have widened significantly and now we see that every news story has two sides. One, to flatter Democrats. And two, to disgrace, impune, mock to scorn and otherwise vilify Republicans. This is a factual situation which has been now validated in recovered emails which prove collusion between the press and the DNC. And although many people don't care about that, many do and have openly rejected the deceit along with establishment Republicans lacking the spine to oppose it all. The ability to judge at the personal level what is right and what is wrong, the real guiding force to America's past success, has been lost and in it's place is a very confusing alternative. Nowadays, if one takes the opinion of the press, there are two points of view and the qualifier isn't discernment based on the principles of Christian ethics, it is whether that view is Republican or Democrat.
Voters have therefore taken things into their own hands because after all, how does one separate the insider good guys from the figuratively bad guys? As you know I put the blame for the recent unraveling of our political system of election onto the Church. I believe there would surely have been a viable candidate to be had from within the Freedom Caucus. But most of America is swayed by secular arguments in this day, and mainstream America tends to reject candidates of an evangelical origin. So, the Dems trotted out Hillary and the Republicans sent out yet another Bush, plus a cast of other characters, and DJT announced, who was and is a clear outsider. Republicans were so sure that the Dems were right and needed a candidate like Marco Rubio to turn their White House fortunes. And in typical forest for the trees disillusionment, completely overlooked the fact that the voter had just swept them into the majority in both Houses of the Congress.
Say what you want, but if the Republican Party really does have Paul Ryan's face on it, I can easily understand why this has happened. But we are waaaay post the why of it now. The American voter wields enormous power and they've been taken advantage of and taken for granted now for decades. The establishment if you ask me, have become a bunch of illegitimate pinch nosed aristocrats of dubious origins with delusions of grandeur instead of public servants. At least in DJT there seems to be a shred of acceptance for the concerns of those who seek to send him to the White House.
The anti-establishment candidate was Ted Cruz. The GOP establishment decided that they would rather lose with Trump (who inherited Jeb Bush's establishment lane) than to win with Cruz.
Nothing Paul Ryan or any other RINO could have done would have made Trump into a strong candidate. Granted, there is no solid evidence that Trump has committed any felonies, but asking people to vote for you because you are not a criminal is not a compelling reason to vote for somebody.
The only tempting reason to vote for a pathological liar like Trump is that he is not Hillary Clinton. I don't fault people for using that logic in casting their votes, but I do fault people whose cult-like devotion to this buffoon for giving me such a Faustian choice in November.
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Presidential Debate #2 - by Granny Bear - 10-10-2016, 05:50 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-10-2016, 06:04 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Granny Bear - 10-10-2016, 09:29 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-10-2016, 09:53 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Granny Bear - 10-10-2016, 10:59 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-11-2016, 02:08 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Granny Bear - 10-11-2016, 02:17 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-11-2016, 02:43 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-11-2016, 03:01 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Granny Bear - 10-11-2016, 03:21 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Motley - 10-11-2016, 02:15 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Granny Bear - 10-11-2016, 02:58 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Motley - 10-11-2016, 03:12 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-11-2016, 03:27 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-11-2016, 08:03 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Bob Seger - 10-11-2016, 09:40 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by vector - 10-11-2016, 10:30 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-11-2016, 11:40 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-12-2016, 04:40 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-12-2016, 04:57 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-12-2016, 05:05 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Bob Seger - 10-12-2016, 05:11 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-12-2016, 05:17 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-12-2016, 05:32 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-12-2016, 06:40 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-12-2016, 07:05 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-12-2016, 09:58 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-12-2016, 11:11 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-13-2016, 03:46 AM
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Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-13-2016, 07:54 PM
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Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-14-2016, 02:22 AM
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Presidential Debate #2 - by LeeCoUKFan - 10-20-2016, 06:48 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-21-2016, 01:36 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 10-21-2016, 10:40 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-21-2016, 05:06 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-21-2016, 08:07 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 10-22-2016, 02:07 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 10-22-2016, 04:03 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Granny Bear - 10-22-2016, 06:43 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 10-22-2016, 10:07 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Granny Bear - 10-24-2016, 04:07 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-24-2016, 05:01 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 10-24-2016, 11:12 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-25-2016, 03:36 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 10-25-2016, 07:49 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Granny Bear - 10-25-2016, 02:44 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-25-2016, 03:47 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-25-2016, 09:04 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 10-26-2016, 01:29 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 10-26-2016, 01:36 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 10-26-2016, 01:45 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-26-2016, 04:15 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 10-26-2016, 08:52 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-26-2016, 04:39 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by vector - 10-26-2016, 05:04 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-26-2016, 05:32 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-26-2016, 08:12 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-26-2016, 11:42 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-27-2016, 03:48 AM
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Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-27-2016, 06:23 AM
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Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-27-2016, 07:31 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-27-2016, 08:41 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 10-27-2016, 11:48 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-27-2016, 06:50 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-27-2016, 06:53 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 10-27-2016, 07:12 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Granny Bear - 10-27-2016, 07:21 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 10-27-2016, 07:48 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-27-2016, 09:07 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-27-2016, 09:27 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 10-27-2016, 10:42 PM
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