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Presidential Debate #2
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Hoot Gibson Wrote:All the good news that Democrats needed was that Donald J. Trump had won and had accepted the Republican nomination. Had a serious Republican candidate emerged from the GOP convention, Hillary Clinton would have already withdrawn for "health reasons" or some other face saving excuse. Republicans knew in advance that the Democrats were running a very bad, criminally flawed candidate, and they offered up the weakest available alternative.

I don't know if I will be able to follow through on my Never Trump pledge or not, but nobody is to blame for this fiasco but Trump, Fox News Channel, and those who did not oppose Trump in the primaries. They will own the results of this election and the calamities that befall this nation over the next four years.



You know Hoot, there's only one guy whose actions you can at least partially control, yourself. The people of this land have finally come out of the fogbank and their reaction was to nominate DJT. I understand your frustration, but that ship has sailed.

I first realized the media had become proactively involved in the American political process during the Reagan years. Since that time their propagandist activities have widened significantly and now we see that every news story has two sides. One, to flatter Democrats. And two, to disgrace, impune, mock to scorn and otherwise vilify Republicans. This is a factual situation which has been now validated in recovered emails which prove collusion between the press and the DNC. And although many people don't care about that, many do and have openly rejected the deceit along with establishment Republicans lacking the spine to oppose it all. The ability to judge at the personal level what is right and what is wrong, the real guiding force to America's past success, has been lost and in it's place is a very confusing alternative. Nowadays, if one takes the opinion of the press, there are two points of view and the qualifier isn't discernment based on the principles of Christian ethics, it is whether that view is Republican or Democrat.

Voters have therefore taken things into their own hands because after all, how does one separate the insider good guys from the figuratively bad guys? As you know I put the blame for the recent unraveling of our political system of election onto the Church. I believe there would surely have been a viable candidate to be had from within the Freedom Caucus. But most of America is swayed by secular arguments in this day, and mainstream America tends to reject candidates of an evangelical origin. So, the Dems trotted out Hillary and the Republicans sent out yet another Bush, plus a cast of other characters, and DJT announced, who was and is a clear outsider. Republicans were so sure that the Dems were right and needed a candidate like Marco Rubio to turn their White House fortunes. And in typical forest for the trees disillusionment, completely overlooked the fact that the voter had just swept them into the majority in both Houses of the Congress.

Say what you want, but if the Republican Party really does have Paul Ryan's face on it, I can easily understand why this has happened. But we are waaaay post the why of it now. The American voter wields enormous power and they've been taken advantage of and taken for granted now for decades. The establishment if you ask me, have become a bunch of illegitimate pinch nosed aristocrats of dubious origins with delusions of grandeur instead of public servants. At least in DJT there seems to be a shred of acceptance for the concerns of those who seek to send him to the White House.
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Presidential Debate #2 - by Granny Bear - 10-10-2016, 05:50 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-10-2016, 06:04 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Granny Bear - 10-10-2016, 09:29 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-10-2016, 09:53 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Granny Bear - 10-10-2016, 10:59 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-11-2016, 02:08 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Granny Bear - 10-11-2016, 02:17 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-11-2016, 02:43 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-11-2016, 03:01 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Granny Bear - 10-11-2016, 03:21 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Motley - 10-11-2016, 02:15 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Granny Bear - 10-11-2016, 02:58 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Motley - 10-11-2016, 03:12 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-11-2016, 03:27 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-11-2016, 08:03 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Bob Seger - 10-11-2016, 09:40 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by vector - 10-11-2016, 10:30 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-11-2016, 11:40 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-12-2016, 04:40 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-12-2016, 04:57 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-12-2016, 05:05 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Bob Seger - 10-12-2016, 05:11 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-12-2016, 05:17 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-12-2016, 05:32 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-12-2016, 06:40 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-12-2016, 07:05 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-12-2016, 09:58 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-12-2016, 11:11 PM
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Presidential Debate #2 - by LeeCoUKFan - 10-20-2016, 06:48 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-21-2016, 01:36 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 10-21-2016, 10:40 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-21-2016, 05:06 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-21-2016, 08:07 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 10-22-2016, 02:07 AM
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Presidential Debate #2 - by Granny Bear - 10-22-2016, 06:43 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 10-22-2016, 10:07 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Granny Bear - 10-24-2016, 04:07 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-24-2016, 05:01 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 10-24-2016, 11:12 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-25-2016, 03:36 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 10-25-2016, 07:49 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Granny Bear - 10-25-2016, 02:44 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-25-2016, 03:47 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-25-2016, 09:04 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 10-26-2016, 01:29 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 10-26-2016, 01:36 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 10-26-2016, 01:45 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-26-2016, 04:15 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 10-26-2016, 08:52 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-26-2016, 04:39 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by vector - 10-26-2016, 05:04 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-26-2016, 05:32 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-26-2016, 08:12 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-26-2016, 11:42 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-27-2016, 03:48 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-27-2016, 05:21 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-27-2016, 05:50 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-27-2016, 06:23 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-27-2016, 06:41 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-27-2016, 07:31 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-27-2016, 08:41 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 10-27-2016, 11:48 AM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-27-2016, 06:50 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-27-2016, 06:53 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 10-27-2016, 07:12 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Granny Bear - 10-27-2016, 07:21 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 10-27-2016, 07:48 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by The Urban Sombrero - 10-27-2016, 09:07 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by TheRealThing - 10-27-2016, 09:27 PM
Presidential Debate #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 10-27-2016, 10:42 PM

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