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09-14-2016, 03:16 AM
TheRealThing Wrote:You don't know if illegals were hired on Trump projects and neither do any of your kindred. If it could have been substantiated, not proven in a court of law mind you merely substantiated, then we'd have certainly heard of it before now. And frankly, if there is anything you and I both know, it's that just making the allegation is the stock-in-trade tactics of your side. Harry Reid stood of the floor of the Senate and said that Romney hadn't paid taxes in 10 years, and he knew it was bull when he said it. When later asked about having done such a thing, he just laughed it off saying of Romney "Well, he didn't get elected, now did he?"
Subcontractors must bid their way onto a project. They do so bidding against other contractors who have sharpened their pencils as much as they dare. It's no easy thing to outbid the others and the first question every contractor who wins a bid asks himself is, "Oh my gosh, what did I miss?" And to make the cheese even more binding, general contractors have to do their due diligence to make certain they've shopped the bids of their would be subordinates around enough to ensure they turn in the best price. If it were to come to pass that any sub failed to accomplish the work as promised, that means it falls to the general to find somebody else to do it right at his own expense.
That being the case and it is, no contractor with his financial life flashing before his eyes is about to let anybody tell him who he will hire to do the very work he's already scared he'll lose money doing anyway. Not only are all contractors closely scrutinized by their superiors, it's nothing for them to actually undergo a mid-job audit by the client to verify their ducks are in a row. The business matters of such a cutthroat industry dictate themselves, one cannot play fast and loose with any part of it and hope to survive to see the next project. Trump didn't hire illegal immigrants, the work was all under contract. If you understood what that means, you'd know what you said is very nearly impossible. And further, if Trump had coerced any sub to hire illegal workers they'd be blowing the whistle so fast it would make Trump's head spin in order to escape prosecution by the INS.
I reassert what I actually said: Donald Trump did not give a whit whether or not illegal immigrants worked in the construction of his hotels, casinos, golf courses. Even if he personally handed each a check, it would not preclude me voting for him. I see it as a non-starter. For that matter, I don't care about his tax returns, as it has been clear to me for years that he inflates his wealth and is bombastic to the nth degree.
George W. Bush wins South Carolina because McCain fathered a black baby. It's politics. All that matters is winning. What is needed is easy deniability. So on and so forth. James Carville. Karl Rove. Different sides but same animal. It's dirty. It's nasty. The stakes are high.
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