[TheRealThing]

Are you stating here that Trump did NOT use illegal immigrants in his construction projects. I want you on the record.

Hillary Clinton "went woozie," no question. Hillary has her secrecy; Donald has his bombast. "Take my word for it" is hardly evidence.

Trump practices boomerang campaigning. Get hit with the charge of offering no policy details only banal superficialties? Turn that around and say it of your opponent.

In my view, the SCOTUS is your mother lode. You are willing to dig after any lead to win this election. How is that different from my friends on the left?

"Oh, no, we take the high road." This is culture war politics. There is no high road. Only folk deluding themselves.

LOL, you the venerable Urban Sombrero want me on record huh? :please: Anything I write on this forum is on the record.

But wow, so much for anything resembling objectivity. First the illegal immigrants working for Trump. Trump writes the checks and demands the three things any well represented client would from a construction general contractor. On specification, on budget and on time. Whether it be high-rise or casino, all projects are accomplished by subcontractors who have bid with and are subservient to the general contractor. There are 16 separate architectural divisions which make up the total construction package. They are things like concrete foundations, structural steel, plumbing, electrical, HVAC, and so on.

Because of the intricacies associated with any one of those divisions, subcontractors always specialize, while the general plays the role of organizer and traffic cop, and speaks on the authority of the client and the architect. On projects as complex as are typical for a Trump enterprise, the chain of command within the General Contractor's organization would be rather complex, involving front line supervisors all the way up to the Superintendent. Therefore, the norm would be to see a fairly high number of 'subs', all working at the same time. There is no way Trump went out and hired the many thousands of workmen who may have at any one time been technically in his employ. The subs do all of their own hiring, as does the General. Their pay checks have the name of the sub in question on them, not Donald J. Trump. You're not going to convince me that he actively solicited for illegals so that he could stay on budget on any jobs that may be in question. Especially in consideration of the fact that illegals tend to be much more numerous in places like Miami.

Sorry pal, but until you're tethered a little more substantially to the same good earth upon which I walk, I'll not be taking your word for anything more than what it obviously is, liberal talking points and revisionist rationalizations. And I don't need to dig after leads, I know the truth from the talking points, mostly because I've been paying attention as history has unfolded over the course of my life. I don't run to the DNC to get them to tell me what I should think about the stuff that happens in this world. Further, I balance what I see and hear against the Scriptures. If it's La-La lunacy, I recognize it, so you can tell yourself that your side of the argument has just as much merit as the conservative side does just to make yourself feel better. You'll never convince me with the shallow and circular logic of the left.