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That's the talking point version. Don't forget the part about how American heroes who lay down their lives in defense of their country deserve to pursue happiness. Somehow, and understanding escapes me in such cases, but somehow there are people who are driven to do extremely reckless acts such as playing Russian Roulette for pastime. They have the right to do that too, but I don't believe for one second the practice makes them happy. Should we carve out legislative considerations for any family members left behind when the inevitable happens to them as well? If you would allow yourself to be completely honest about this, you'd have to admit drug usage, sex addiction, over eating, smoking, alcohol addiction, compulsive gambling, even a life of crime, all fit the definition of pursuing that which makes one happy. That's the secular side of the argument and I suppose is the reason liberals can't seem to get over their bent to release the contents of the prison system back out to rape, plunder and murder all over again.

There are laws which govern this universe. Thermodynamics, physics and possibly astro-physics, the laws of gravity, time and space. All of these things are the stuff of a finite and orderly universe, they continue to be what they are apart from man's perception, which BTW, varies greatly over time. Man can no more just jump up and declare one of these fundamental laws null and void, anymore than he can pass laws to by edict, declare them null and void. The founders were aware of this and therefore included language to that effect within the founding documents.
"and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitles them"

Regardless of his achievement or level of arrogance, man cannot overrule the laws of nature. The same holds true for The Word of God, which whether one might want to admit it or not, cannot be changed, modified or overruled. Men ought not call that good which He has called sin. Homosexuality is sin, and for the United States to embrace the practice from the enlightened 21st Century point of view is just as rebelliously absurd as it was in Old Testament days. Incredibly we have created a protected class under the Constitution based on noting more than sexual deviancy. And like I said in the previous post and you side stepped it, alcoholism is another sin which holds many in it's death grip. So what's it gonna be, legislative carve-outs all around, or not?

In any case, Jefferson's writings are sufficiently replete so that I am confident that he would not have supported gay marriage. And he certainly would not have condoned the Supreme Court's having usurped individual State sovereignty and the standing referendums on the matter.

As you mention numerous times on this forum, the decline of our moral society always seems to go in small steps. We start out with divorce becoming more common. In 1969 when The Brady Bunch first came out, there was a debate as to whether the character Mrs. Brady would be divorced from her husband. The writers decided just not to mention how she became remarried in the episode, in part out of fear of a major backlash from showing a divorced person on TV.

Fast forward another 20 or 30 years, and then you have "co-habiting" becoming and more and more acceptable - despite it leading to higher divorce rates. Combine that with high schools opening day care centers due to the overwhelming number of teenage pregnancies, and that creates some serious problems.

This society has a mentality of, "if it feels good, do it." You have drug usage, the 26 year old gang member that is a "child" in the eyes of the liberal, and more and more deviant behaviors that you mentioned that are being paraded. Now, it's hip for somebody to think they are the opposite gender - or define themselves as no gender at all.

We have certainly changed as a society, and not to the good. We're no longer at a time where you can park your car downtown and leave your windows down with your key in the ignition.