[TheRealThing]

I’m not going to quote you, TRT (to save room) but am responding to your prior two posts.

1) For the one about Cruz, for sake of this I will go along with you and agree with all of that – even though I don’t buy it because you were pro-Trump long before that whole thing in Iowa ever happened. Honestly, it looked as if you were lying in wait for Cruz to do something so you could turn against him. Cruz turns out bad, but then you go with….Donald Trump? Out of all of the other candidates? That’s why I have a difficult time taking that seriously.

2) Nice try on twisting my quote about the primary, your hope being, of course, to get me to defend myself on that so you can dodge having not voted. And you’re the one who often tells us how we are going to be held accountable for our vote.

Now I’ll respond to post #46.

3) What you laid out in post #14, is pretty much the selling points for the reasons anybody would vote Republican. You mentioned similar issues in another thread. I never said anything related to Keane or Bolton, or even Jeffress, but the only one you mentioned to me of the three was Jeffress.

4) Yes, it will only be one of the two candidates unless Johnson happens to go on a tear, which I don’t see happening –
There’s just too much of an emotional attachment to Donald Trump amongst his supporters, which is dangerous.

5) I’ve gone the direction I have, because if I attack Donald Trump you take it as an insult toward you and often respond in like, attacking my sources and often dismissing my knowledge because of my youth. I’m not mad, but you can bet I’ll fire back when that happens. Regarding Trump, we’ll just have to disagree.

1) How does one agree with something and at the same time not buy it? Understand, being friends does not mean you get to standardize all the rules of that friendship. I saw all of the other candidates racing to get their politically correct house in order during the debates; In what looked to me like an emergency effort to try and become competitive with Trump, the driving force behind all of that were the polls. So we don't share your high regard for the other 15 former candidates. All but Christie and Rand Paul that is, they stayed the course and lost, but at least they did not compromise. I criticized Christie for the big hug after Hurricane Sandy but he did tell his critics he had a state to rebuild. Still, in no way does that affect my opinion on his ability to be an effective US Attorney General. Which BTW, I pointed out as soon as he came out in endorsement of Mr Trump.

2) Some people vote and keep their mouth shut about who they vote for. I on the other hand have faced the jeers of my peers in a very contentious union work environment, calling out the hypocrisy of the Dems since the days of Ronald Reagan. Most don't do that because they are unwilling to take the heat or possibly even the threats. I served my country in time of war and carved out my little slice of Americana with my own two hands. Like it or not, you will be held accountable for your vote. I for one, am proud of every one I have cast. And laying aside the unthinkably unforeseen, you can bet your last dime (before Hillary taxes it out of you) that I will be there to vote for Donald J. Trump.

3) I thought the larger point was pretty clear. I've quoted a large number of people. I still say Sarah is a smart woman, she just left off from quoting Scripture to talking about having enough balls to do whatever. That to me was bizarre.

4) I've gone into detail about this before, several times in fact and as recently as post 14 in this thread. Trump supporters are not mindless mushrooms under some kind of dangerous spell and I hardly think you've particularly or unilaterally cornered the market on reality. Although I will cede to you that many millions of Americans love the lie rather than the truth.

5) I understand every ram has to rise to the top. You made posts which were intended to challenge my statements, while saying things like I was under a cultlike spell or that I was being a petulant child. Or as was just demonstrated, you basically but politely said I was being dishonest by mischaracterizing your quote.

Maybe the pupil can just sort of throw a switch and in a mere fraction of a second become the prof, or maybe he can't. And nobody is saying you have to agree with me, but as I continue to point out. Where you see a wolf in sheep's clothing with Trump, I do not. Trying to guess your way around Trump's pragmatic discourse is just not something I can make myself to do. And again, nobody can say they know for a fact that he will not govern as he says he will.

As I type this, and again using the manufactured Khisr Khan fallacy as a backdrop. President Barack Obama is on TV telling the Republican Party at large, it is time for them to tell Trump enough is enough, and throw him over for Hillary. In the run up to 2012, the lies used against Romney rose to a level not seen prior to that day. With the 2016 election a mere 90ish days away, the 2012 example has been made to look like child's play in comparison. Everything done the past 8 years rides on Hillary getting elected and she knows the media and all the major players will do whatever they can to make it happen. And BTW, Mr Obama cited the comments of Paul Ryan and John McCain in support of his argument to that end. Who knows, they may all be headed out for a round of golf and dinner tonight. Now I'm really glad I spoke out against them, before the fallout had a chance to materialize.