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08-01-2016, 08:02 PM
Granny Bear Wrote:Here is how it shakes down for me. Trump was not my first choice. I don't want to speak for TRT or Seger, but I don't believe he was their first choice either. However, he WAS the first choice for the Republican Primary.
Now, we are facing the general election with Trump and Clinton. In my opinion, ANY vote not given to Trump is a good thing for Clinton. You know, that a third party isn't going to win, so any votes cast for them is just thrown out the window. Hoot said as much to me 4 years ago when I was a little disenfranchised with the choices for President.
So, I am attempting to find and highlight the better points of the Republican nominee. I resent the Republican party trying to manipulate the system to replace Trump (much like the Dems did to Sanders), and I resent SO MUCH negativity being attributed to Trump. I know he isn't perfect but there are so many rumors and innuendoes floating around. Add the fact that the media favors Clinton, the FBO dismisses criminal actions by Clinton, etc etc; it becomes difficult to impossible to find factual information.
So I am trusting a political novice (which is attractive to me) to surround himself with great choices for cabinet members. He sure has done that during his campaign. AND I thoroughly approve of his vice presidential choice.
I'm really afraid of what will happen if Clinton wins this election. She is so liberal and polarizing. When she was refused a platform in Mingo, WV, she denied ever saying that she would put the coal industry out of business. She recanted that because that was exactly what she had said. So, then she said that she had "mis spoke" and promised to have Bill as a "job czar" to the area.
I'm sorry, but I don't believe a word of that.
So everyone certainly has the right to vote their conscience. Even Trump supporters.
On a different note, I care about the posters of BGR. I don't know why, but I do. I know many of you on a personal level. I get tickled at you guys all the time, and I hate it when a debate gets personal, but such is life. We are all adults, even tho some of us don't act like it, and life happens.
I take very little that's posted on here personal. Sometimes I get a little firey but most of the time I don't even think about it.
So, as is everyone's right, vote your conscience.
Clinton’s supporters would say the same thing, that any vote not given to Clinton is a vote for Trump. So, you could say it either way. I’m doing what I think is best, although take note my vote is not finalized at this point. You know what I think about Clinton, but I also don’t have the confidence in Trump to cast a vote for him.
The media, yes, I agree Granny, they are biased against Trump. It still doesn’t excuse some of his actions, but none of what I believe comes from the media. It comes from his speeches, from Twitter, his website, from studying his positions and the lack of confidence in him to develop a consistent position on most issues. The best source of information, Granny, if you’re not watching it live on C-SPAN, go to (1) Full YouTube videos of a candidate's speeches and/or interviews, and (2) the candidate's website. Best way you can get an understanding of a candidate.
I expected if a non-establishment candidate such as Trump, Rubio, Cruz, or Paul won that they would probably have a bit of trouble getting support from people such as McCain or Romney. So it's pretty easy to cut Trump some slack in that area. With Trump, though, I feel like he has brought some of the heat on himself with some unnecessary attacks toward them at times.
I feel confident Trump wasn’t the first choice of Seger, I know it was for TRT though, as much as tries to act like it wasn’t. Go back and read his posts, well before the primary was close to being decided. He is also on record here stating that he didn’t even vote in the most important primary in the history of our country.
I’m not the least bit mad at TRT, as it may seem in your eyes. I certainly stand my ground and I do think he made a bad decision in the primary, but I like TRT. It’s nothing personal.
Lastly, again, if you vote Trump and feel it’s the right thing to do to keep Hillary out, I don’t fault you. When I speak of Trump supporters, I'm not speaking of the ones that are holding their noses to vote for him merely to keep Hillary Clinton out.
Regardless of who the politician is, when you see a group of people become so attached to one (as we saw with Barack Obama) to the point where they can do no wrong then that sets of dangerous precedent. Donald Trump has a cult-like following which is bad in many ways. This movement is not about Christian or conservative values, it's about Donald Trump - which is a dangerous tone to have because just like with Barack Obama, many of Trump's supporters will flip their views to whatever Trump is feeling.
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This means WAR! - by Pick6 - 07-28-2016, 01:26 PM
This means WAR! - by Bob Seger - 07-28-2016, 01:39 PM
This means WAR! - by WideRight05 - 07-28-2016, 04:47 PM
This means WAR! - by TheRealThing - 07-29-2016, 03:11 AM
This means WAR! - by WideRight05 - 07-29-2016, 05:19 AM
This means WAR! - by TheRealThing - 07-29-2016, 05:56 AM
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This means WAR! - by WideRight05 - 07-29-2016, 09:17 PM
This means WAR! - by TheRealThing - 07-30-2016, 07:06 PM
This means WAR! - by WideRight05 - 07-30-2016, 11:12 PM
This means WAR! - by TheRealThing - 07-31-2016, 03:20 AM
This means WAR! - by WideRight05 - 07-31-2016, 03:50 AM
This means WAR! - by TheRealThing - 07-31-2016, 04:27 AM
This means WAR! - by The Urban Sombrero - 07-31-2016, 04:43 AM
This means WAR! - by WideRight05 - 07-31-2016, 04:52 AM
This means WAR! - by TheRealThing - 07-31-2016, 04:53 AM
This means WAR! - by WideRight05 - 07-31-2016, 04:58 AM
This means WAR! - by TheRealThing - 07-31-2016, 05:01 AM
This means WAR! - by WideRight05 - 07-31-2016, 05:20 AM
This means WAR! - by The Urban Sombrero - 07-31-2016, 05:27 AM
This means WAR! - by Pick6 - 07-31-2016, 01:12 PM
This means WAR! - by The Urban Sombrero - 07-31-2016, 06:25 PM
This means WAR! - by Pick6 - 07-31-2016, 08:50 PM
This means WAR! - by The Urban Sombrero - 07-31-2016, 09:00 PM
This means WAR! - by Bob Seger - 07-31-2016, 10:02 PM
This means WAR! - by Pick6 - 07-31-2016, 10:14 PM
This means WAR! - by The Urban Sombrero - 07-31-2016, 10:22 PM
This means WAR! - by Bob Seger - 07-31-2016, 10:34 PM
This means WAR! - by WideRight05 - 07-31-2016, 10:36 PM
This means WAR! - by The Urban Sombrero - 07-31-2016, 11:44 PM
This means WAR! - by Granny Bear - 08-01-2016, 12:14 AM
This means WAR! - by Bob Seger - 08-01-2016, 04:04 AM
This means WAR! - by TheRealThing - 08-01-2016, 04:49 PM
This means WAR! - by WideRight05 - 08-01-2016, 05:14 PM
This means WAR! - by The Urban Sombrero - 08-01-2016, 05:52 PM
This means WAR! - by WideRight05 - 08-01-2016, 07:02 PM
This means WAR! - by TheRealThing - 08-01-2016, 07:16 PM
This means WAR! - by Granny Bear - 08-01-2016, 07:23 PM
This means WAR! - by WideRight05 - 08-01-2016, 07:34 PM
This means WAR! - by WideRight05 - 08-01-2016, 08:02 PM
This means WAR! - by WideRight05 - 08-01-2016, 08:45 PM
This means WAR! - by The Urban Sombrero - 08-01-2016, 09:15 PM
This means WAR! - by TigerBlues - 08-01-2016, 11:30 PM
This means WAR! - by The Urban Sombrero - 08-01-2016, 11:37 PM
This means WAR! - by TheRealThing - 08-02-2016, 04:41 AM
This means WAR! - by TheRealThing - 08-02-2016, 05:10 AM
This means WAR! - by RunItUpTheGut - 08-02-2016, 02:39 PM
This means WAR! - by WideRight05 - 08-02-2016, 02:57 PM
This means WAR! - by Granny Bear - 08-02-2016, 03:34 PM
This means WAR! - by TheRealThing - 08-02-2016, 05:20 PM
This means WAR! - by WideRight05 - 08-03-2016, 02:09 AM
This means WAR! - by TheRealThing - 08-03-2016, 03:16 AM
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