[TheRealThing]

"Antonin come lately"...not Justice Scalia himself, but the "come lately" versions that act like the 2nd Amendment is carte blanche. I try not to refer to our leaders by first name, as that is, in my view, disrespectful. I did not know Justice Scalia said what you quoted, but I knew that his view of the 2nd Amendment was not bereft of historical perspective. But I was not debating with him, or you for that matter, in many of these posts and threads. As I have said before, my relatives have all manner of guns. I just don't think an extreme view of the slippery slope is valid here, nor do I believe President Obama's "agenda" is a Naziesque bum rush to "get all the guns."

Fair enough. And thank you for being reasonable about the true conservative perspective with regard to the 2nd Amendment. Which perspective BTW, is completely mischaracterized by the left who use words to wage war. Whether a massacre perpetrated with a gun at a gay bar, or a massacre perpetrated with a box van on the French Riviera, the problem is the war between good and evil, not gun ownership here in the USA. I have shown you that the Arab World has been at war with Israel and other infidels from the beginning. The difference now is communication which gives them hope and unity, and organization which gives them lines of logistics and recruitment.

In the case of gun control, anybody who wants to be the least bit honest with himself will see, if he allows the fog of controversy created by the left to dissipate for just a moment, the goal of the left is to remove guns from inside our borders. In their minds we have police and military to ward off threat and there is no need for gun ownership in this day in time. To them, the notion of an armed citizenry is an antiquated perspective of a bunch of guys who wore powdered wigs and had to fight off England and others who challenged our statehood.

Further, they reason that if all guns are gone there will be no way for the criminals to lay hands on them. On the one hand they insist on European-esque wide open borders through which drugs and guns pour through, while on other they want to end legal gun ownership. All of which is a complete sidestep of reality. Only killers shoot people, and man is not evolving toward godhood. 21st Century thinking is a joke, so is the Émile Coué inspired blather which went as follows (but liberals still love it); "Every day, in every way, I'm getting better and better"