[The Urban Sombrero]

So the conversation which began with your contention that the Framers saw crowd control not as a matter of law enforcement, but was dealt with directly in F10 by no less that Madison himself, which was completely false, has now morphed into a debate about the influences European schools of thought may have had on the Framers mindset as that would apply to our founding?

I just went through all this, and that according to Madison, and this really is in F10, the people through their right and power to vote, invest said power in their elected delegates. Said delegates who then govern those who just endued them with the power of office under the dictates of the Constitution, thusly creating that system of checks and balances. How are you coming up 'with the framers entrusting the fate of our nation entirely to the whims of the public?' :dudecomeon:

You just built a straw man. Congratulations. My point was the public and wariness of mob rule was included in the calculations of the Framers. I am not for Hillary Clinton, but she is going to win in an electoral landslide. The reason is that Trump lacks discipline in staying on message, the message that resonates. He just won't do it, and in the general election, that matters much more than in the primary season.