[TheRealThing]

I pushed you to answer my points because you wouldn’t answer them. Reason would have probably been a better term to use, but you know what I mean. All most of the liberals did was post articles and dodge our points. Never once did they attempt to have meaningful conversation. I have attempted to go into detail on it, if there is something you would like me to clarify just ask me. You know the great lengths I go to seek detail, as you and I have spoken about before. If there is something you need repeated, I will go into greater detail on it.

Tell me what more there is to clarify. Donald Trump took a shot at Adelson via Twitter for trying to make Rubio into a puppet, see the previous post about what he said last October via his own Twitter account when Adelson announced support for Rubio. That doesn’t come from one of those “never trump” sites TRT. That is directly from Donald Trump’s twitter. Now all of a sudden, he’s embracing Adelson when he offers his support? That is the behavior of a typical politician.

Now, as to the characteristics I’m seeing, TRT, I don’t know if you realize it – leaving Hoot Gibson out of this – I think you have fallen for Trump to the point where you don’t realize his err. Using people like Chris Christie, and every possible endorsement you can get to try to swing us over, rubbing in that he defeated Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio by a big margin and the vast number of votes he’s getting – that’s not going to sway me. If you want to have an impact on me, do what you have always done in making lucid arguments. I have more in common with you from an overall political perspective than any other poster on this board, even Hoot. Even though you are pro-life and against the LGBT agenda, you stood for this candidate long before the primaries were decided. Even if you didn’t like Ted Cruz, there were other candidates that would have taken the proper stand needed.

I just can’t believe people are falling for this. Trump is acting like a child on Twitter. This is, as I mentioned in the preceding post, everything that we stood against Barack Obama and his supporters for. The mob mentality of pounding those in disagreement into submission. I know if you read Twitter or Free Republic much, but I encourage you to take a look at both of them. A large group of mostly Trump supporters have removed any ability to have open and reasonable discussion surrounding the highest position in the land.

I’m not going to get into a urination contest – I’m staying out of as much as possible and am focusing on discussing whatever issue is at hand. I have been good to you and told you I didn’t want this sinking to the level of where it has been with you and Hoot. Thus, if you plan on continuing to make posts like that last one, I’ll be out. But if you plan on discussing this reasonably with me, you may not agree with what I say, but I’ll be fair to you.

Thank you for sharing that with me. Maybe a guy relatively fresh out of college is wiser, is experienced far beyond his years, and a better judge of character than I, and maybe he isn't. I'm not looking for guidance here Wide, this has come down to a life or death situation for the United States. Frankly, having heard clear statements and the veiled threats made, I have been posting my concerns on here since Obama made his run up to the White House in 2008. Back then US statehood was still in familiar territory, but as I have warned since, we have sailed not so quietly past that outer marker and are now in uncharted seas. Christians sat on their hands for decades watching depravity tighten it's grip on our country and did nothing. If this is the generation to wake back up we certainly should not think that we can restore sanity in one election cycle. It will be a long, messy and arduous task that will require our best effort every election for the foreseeable future. And if we cannot prevail, we have to at least go down fighting.

But this cycle of greatness and decline is nothing new in the history of civilization. Israel is the perfect example of rising to greatness one generation, only to slide into decline and even judgment the next. The US has slidden or is in the process of same and we are through our system of political power of and by the people, trying to right ourselves. Let's hope for all our sakes we can pull it off, because many US citizens care only for that next case of beer and pizza.

Liberals have succeeded in their quest to unmoor this country from her traditionally conservative roots. The academia, for whatever reason the able and willing messengers of liberalism, separated our youth from the truth of their heritage in rewriting, redefining and retelling the historical record. The rest of us, those of the 'Great Generation,' along with the great political and military leaders who won for us the glories of statehood which excelled even Greece and made the US the premier world super power she was as recently as 2008, just up and left public life when they got older to enjoy their retirement homes and take it easy. See, like the millionaire entrepreneur whose son is doomed to almost certain failure because he is unwilling to invest himself fully in ensuring that his business survives, somewhere along the way those great folks misunderstood how to effectively pass on the baton of self governance to the present generation. They came, they saw, they conquered, and threats foreign and domestic were vanquished, their work seeming finished they went to sleep. You've even said as I have made those arguments in times past, that you saw college profs instructing and steering impressionable students toward a liberal view with all the energy they could muster while you were in college.

Thus we come to 2008 and one of those profs gets elected president. Suddenly the whimsical debates that lived only in the college classroom have found life in the foreign and domestic affairs of the United States of America; And now emanate from the White House itself. Ben Rhodes and Valarie Jarrett direct policy, Barack Obama lectures the globe, and liberals who have the media microphone and stand in the liberal pulpit, along with their devoted followers are clamoring for even more of the same in the person of Elizabeth Warren. Those mentioned are the liberal visionaries, the followers or vote givers, are mere pawns who sell their souls for the gifts of the left. It is a shame for a man or woman for that matter, to live off the labors of others. You'd never guess that in our day however, what with Nancy Pelosi doing her best Marie Antoinette in saying of life long welfare recipients, "Let them be artists."

The field of Republicans running was impressive this time. But like a Little League Baseball draft, you go in with your dream sheet but when it comes time to pick you take the best you can get each round. This time we the people, selected Donald J. Trump. I initially supported Ted Cruz, but soon realized that Mike Huckabee was the guy I wanted, and though I'm not suffering from any delusions about who would have made the better candidate, when it gets to be my turn to pick I'm voting for Trump.

My only concern is that I do that which I will be proud of having done for the sake of the common good, and that which I believe the Lord would have expected me to do given the situation at hand. In the end, the authority over who is actually installed in office is with God. Mine is to make certain that I choose the right person to that end as I see it. Hillary is in my view a secular humanist, so is Bernie Sanders. I mean, I could vote for my Pastor if I thought he more perfectly exemplified the characteristics of moral understanding, but he has no chance of getting elected. Trump says he is pro-life, and we don't know what he will do on the gay rights front. I can tell you this, those folks are among the ones doing all the protesting and violent opposition at Trump rallies. A house divided against itself cannot stand, it doesn't seem very likely to me that Trump is a liberal in conservative clothing. If he is, not only am I wrong, but the liberals who would benefit he most in such case are too.

We must end illegal immigration gone to light speed. We must end the tide of ever increasing welfare demands. We must defend our homeland. We must return to the moral authority on which our system of law is based. If not, you can bet that there will be 31 flavors of everything, along with sharia law and all the rest. If Hillary gets in we won't live to fight on that 'next day' of platitude. Like I said, I wish things were much better but they're not. I'd rather make some sort of return to the reality I grew up in rather than continue the decent, which is a done deal with Hillary IMHO. And once more for the record. Trump says he has changed, I know I did, and I have seen any number or other men do the same thing.