[TheRealThing]

I will think what I want to, TRT - I'm not set in stone to anybody and will take a stand for what I believe, to my best judgment, is right vs. wrong. I'm not held to any one friend, political party, or politician.

I’m not talking about the amount he spent TRT – stay on topic here - I’m talking about that he said he was self-funding his campaign, a statement that many of his supporters ran with in their arguments. Jeb Bush was far and beyond the favorite at the beginning of this and he was expected to spend a fortune, which, he did even though he didn’t make it far. I’m sure that Trump had no clue he would actually be able to win it by utilizing twitter insults and garner the media coverage he did with some of his statements, but he probably anticipated he would have to be borrowing a lot more. If Trump admitted that he would be taking his funding from other sources, I wouldn’t have thought anything of it. Now, the question that you have not answered - if he didn't intend to pay himself back via corporate donations, why did Donald Trump take out a loan?

If you want to talk about sidestepping though, you have dodged many of my points, including, once again, about Sheldon Adelson. “End of productive discussion” isn’t going to cut it to here. I doubt you actually looked at the videos of Trump that I posted. If you did, you would see that he seems to be favorable to the transgender agenda that you strongly oppose. But we wouldn’t want that though, because it might show that Donald Trump isn’t the candidate that you thought he was. :biggrin:

I have been patient with you but after enduring cheap shot after cheap shot here in this last post, I’ve seen enough. I haven’t used any of those sources, TRT – the #NeverTrump, the “establishment rich,” rabid liberals and other left wing sources. You know I don’t look at those sources. You make accusations of which, you know you cannot defend.

I have been good to you and attempted to understand your liking for Trump despite my disagreement. I have been good to both you and Hoot with my intention of staying out of the fight going on. I made that a point of emphasis especially to you, just because of our difference on opinion on Trump. You’re so much better than this. You’re definitely not the same TRT that put together lucid arguments for your positions.

I’ll close with a couple thoughts. This whole thing just amazes me, what has taken place this short time with Donald Trump. For the past three to four years on BGR, one of our key complaints about liberals such as TRV and others was that they did not rationalize with us when it comes to posting. That often they would respond with name calling or a link instead of an argument supporting their position. If I had a dollar every time you, Hoot, or another poster would call him out for that I would be able to retire young. This is the same thing that probably many of Donald Trump’s supporters called liberals out for during these past few years. America, in general, has become way too accepting of the mob mentality and that if we don’t agree with somebody that we can insult them into submission. This especially shows with Trump supporters. This turns people away from your message. If you want to insult me, TRT, that’s fine. But I’ll tell you what, if you think I’m just going to roll over and vote for Donald Trump just to follow the crowd, boy are you ever wrong.

You were the one who pushed me to answer your points. First of all, when one rationalizes, that means he has justified a position or an action which on it's face is not justifiable in truth. The fact is liberals always do rationalize their positions and did rationalize with us with us when it came to posting with us. I called it sidestepping or smoke and mirrors. You'll have to clarify a bit if you want anything more out of me.

And forgive me, but I will stay on topic, if you will articulate whatever it is you are trying to say a bit more clarity. Sheldon Adelson gave 100 million to a super pac which supported Gingrich, then he supported Rubio, then he supported Cruz and now he supports Trump. What's your point?

I'm not going to speak for you, so you tell me, did Trump 'take out a loan', and if so, what does that mean? One more thing I'm confused about, are you staying out of it, or are you jumping in?