[WideRight05]

Think what you want pal, because it looks to me like you're going to do exactly that anyway.

But I will tell you this. he had to by law, keep exacting records of his expenditures during this campaign. Now, he could have said he anted up, or he ponied up, or he could have said he self funded. He still has to have records. Even PolitiFact, who would love to have landed on him much harder than they actually did, rated his statement as 'half true' because he has put up about 38 million for his campaign. I'll tell ya, half true in this day is like nigh on to scriptural in comparison to Hillary and corps.

And then this is worth consideration too in my view. When Trump started his campaign, he didn't know if he'd shortly get laughed off the debate stage and politics in general, or not. As a consequence he was as frugal as he could be in his spending. I think I saw somewhere that while Sanders was spending 9 dollars per vote in New York, Trump was spending 13 cents per vote. And numbers like that have been the story for Trump throughout this cycle. He isn't the clairvoyant that many profess to be these days, and didn't have the first darn clue while running, if he would win or not until Indiana when Cruz suddenly drug up. The point is for you or anybody to say he had some nefarious counter plot to get all his money back from the git-go, when he didn't even know if he could stay in the race very long, much less win the nomination is an epic stretch in my book.

So, if you're dead set to sidestep the obvious events as they have unfolded before your beady little eyeballs, there isn't a lot I can do about it. But don't expect me to join the dark side until and if something solid starts getting reported by sources other than #NeverTrump, the establishment rich, rabid liberals and other assorted extreme left loons. :biggrin:

Oh and then there is the bathroom deal in NC. The Governor has got this. Trump the candidate would be stupid to wade into that mud, end of productive discussion.

I will think what I want to, TRT - I'm not set in stone to anybody and will take a stand for what I believe, to my best judgment, is right vs. wrong. I'm not held to any one friend, political party, or politician.

I’m not talking about the amount he spent TRT – stay on topic here - I’m talking about that he said he was self-funding his campaign, a statement that many of his supporters ran with in their arguments. Jeb Bush was far and beyond the favorite at the beginning of this and he was expected to spend a fortune, which, he did even though he didn’t make it far. I’m sure that Trump had no clue he would actually be able to win it by utilizing twitter insults and garner the media coverage he did with some of his statements, but he probably anticipated he would have to be borrowing a lot more. If Trump admitted that he would be taking his funding from other sources, I wouldn’t have thought anything of it. Now, the question that you have not answered - if he didn't intend to pay himself back via corporate donations, why did Donald Trump take out a loan?

If you want to talk about sidestepping though, you have dodged many of my points, including, once again, about Sheldon Adelson. “End of productive discussion” isn’t going to cut it to here. I doubt you actually looked at the videos of Trump that I posted. If you did, you would see that he seems to be favorable to the transgender agenda that you strongly oppose. But we wouldn’t want that though, because it might show that Donald Trump isn’t the candidate that you thought he was. :biggrin:

I have been patient with you but after enduring cheap shot after cheap shot here in this last post, I’ve seen enough. I haven’t used any of those sources, TRT – the #NeverTrump, the “establishment rich,” rabid liberals and other left wing sources. You know I don’t look at those sources. You make accusations of which, you know you cannot defend.

I have been good to you and attempted to understand your liking for Trump despite my disagreement. I have been good to both you and Hoot with my intention of staying out of the fight going on. I made that a point of emphasis especially to you, just because of our difference on opinion on Trump. You’re so much better than this. You’re definitely not the same TRT that put together lucid arguments for your positions.

I’ll close with a couple thoughts. This whole thing just amazes me, what has taken place this short time with Donald Trump. For the past three to four years on BGR, one of our key complaints about liberals such as TRV and others was that they did not rationalize with us when it comes to posting. That often they would respond with name calling or a link instead of an argument supporting their position. If I had a dollar every time you, Hoot, or another poster would call him out for that I would be able to retire young. This is the same thing that probably many of Donald Trump’s supporters called liberals out for during these past few years. America, in general, has become way too accepting of the mob mentality and that if we don’t agree with somebody that we can insult them into submission. This especially shows with Trump supporters. This turns people away from your message. If you want to insult me, TRT, that’s fine. But I’ll tell you what, if you think I’m just going to roll over and vote for Donald Trump just to follow the crowd, boy are you ever wrong.