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1. Trump has had the nomination locked up for a long time. Its why Hoot started going after him. Its been obvious for a while and anyone who was still thinking Cruz had a shot was in denial. By trashing Trump and still supporting the sinking ship, you are no different than the lunatic Bernie supporters who (im glad theyre doing it) still holding Killary back from turning her attention to the general.

2. Nothing now will change my mind on voting for Trump. A no vote is a vote for Hillary. I refuse to let that witch win without a fight. The point of BGR is to post and have fun not get into a life or death discussion on politics, which I refuse to do.

3. There is no maybes for me on this. I side with TRT and DW on all issue pertaining to Trump over that of you and hoot. Just the way it is.

4. If it is as difficult to learn about Donalds policies as you say it is, then what exactly are you arguing against? Kind of an oxymoron there...

5. Which is exactly why we need someone with no political experience. This whole thing isn't about Donald Trump. That is what you don't understand. Its a rebellion of ALL politicians no matter what there stances are. At the end of the day they are all tax payer funded politicians. I wouldn't care if there isn't a single incumbent reelected ever.

6. It doesn't matter what your level of comfort is. The alternative is Hillary and you know what her stances are. I don't agree with Donald Trump on everything but I do not agree with Hillary on anything.

7. Again, that does not matter in this election. Your alternative is Hillary. If I wanted a preacher I would go to church. I want a businessman that wants to be strong on the economy and raise our military strength. He has vowed to do both. If he fails, oh well. You know Clinton is mentally incapable of doing anything.

8. The problem with looking at it like that is restricting the actual future of what is to inevitably come. Libertarians cant make up there mind on anything. Its a cowards way out of not choosing what you actually want. You are either a conservative with some differing views or you are a moderate which is nothing short of a democrat. The democrats have liberals and psychos. That is all that's left. The actual premise of libertarian ideas are not bad, but you cant lie on two separate sides of the aisle and expect to win anything. Im a lot more closer libertarian than I am a authoritarian but theres no set in stone definition of what those words mean when it comes to politics.

9. Im not frustrated. Im completely pissed off that we share the same soil as these losers. There is no good in the democratic party. None. There is not a single democratic politician left alive today that I would help or support in anyway. If anyone else would have said what Trump has, he would have had my vote. I wouldn't have to of ever heard of him before. Trump has proven (whether he believes it or not) that there are many more people like us to the right then there are the moderates like your Bush's and Clintons.

Hi Gut,

I say this in all seriousness, I really enjoyed reading that despite disagreeing with a portion of it. :thumbsup:

As for editing something of that length, I can’t blame you for not doing so as you mentioned (I took that part out of the quote for spacing purposes).

1. Looking at it in hindsight Trump had the nomination locked up, but there were a lot of us that just didn’t take him as a serious candidate. Hoot didn’t like Trump from the very beginning for the reasons mentioned in his posts. I didn’t take Trump as a serious candidate until it came down to the final four and he was campaigning hard against Cruz and Rubio. Comparing Cruz supporters to Bernie’s, it’s not even close. You don’t see supporters for any Republican candidate going to Trump rallies and setting the horrible example that Hillary’s and Bernie’s are. Look at it this way. If Kentucky were down 10 in a basketball game with 2 minutes to go, wouldn’t you tell them to still try to come back and win? Chances are slim, but they could pull it out if a couple long shots happened. This race is for the President of the United States. Anybody that has a sense of drive that is running is going to jump in there full force and do everything they can to possibly gain that position. Cruz did just that. I know Trump certainly would have gone to any length possible to steal the nomination if the positions were reversed.

2. You have the right to a vote and the right to an opinion and the right to express that in both the private and public scales, of course, I don’t need to tell you. But a liberal might think different. I understand your hatred for Hillary (a hatred I share) and can agree that we should all just have fun at it because quite frankly, our society has gone too far down the toilet anyways. Every single one of us on this board posting, with regard to our actions – there’s not one of us that is innocent.

3. Ok. I’m not mad at you for it and haven’t been from the time we started going at. We agree to disagree.

4. I’m arguing against that he has afraid to take a stand on certain policies and reveal a consistent position. I am understanding of his tax code and bits and pieces of his immigration, economic, and health care plans. But as I mentioned last October, there’s just not enough clarity. Not to mention, he has not stood up on key issues I would expect him to. Take this issue with the Department of Education and bathrooms. Even some of our weaker Republican governors with a reputation for backing down under pressure have stood up against it. To add to this, I also think an election of someone like him could shift the Republican Party to be more of a moderate party, weeding out some of the conservatives. Most of the people that Trump has placed in his key positions (e.g. Chris Christie, and I’m expecting him to place Kasich high on the list) are not what I would call conservative.

5. I don’t mind not having someone with no political experience. Remember, you and I come from very similar viewpoints even though our views on Donald Trump differ. We’re both fed up with how a lot of the establishment has caved on key issues. Other than this, I don’t recall seeing a disagreement on a major issue. I do understand that people are just fed up in general with our system. They are fed up with politicians telling lies, they are fed up with them backing down – especially on the Republican side. The problem is, there really are a few good guys in the system this time and they’re taking the flack for being outnumbered substantially by opponents on both sides of the aisle. I would have liked to see Trump round up non-establishment figures such as Rubio, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Rand Paul, Steve King, Jim Jordan, and Ben Sasse and really make a push to get them behind him to make some changes – even if he was running against some of them in the primary. These have been the good guys that have taken a stand against the establishment. I could definitely understand the eagerness to see a politician like John McCain go, but we’re making a big mistake when we’re trying to push out some of these guys that have really been fighting for change and been true to their (and our) belief system.

6. Even though I strongly disagreed in the primary of choosing Donald Trump over all but one of the other candidates, I can understand one wanting to vote for him just for the purposes of keeping Hillary out.

7. After seeing Barack Obama and what he has “accomplished” morally with our country, we need somebody with the strong, unwavering morals guiding our country. The family structure, for one thing, is falling completely apart. Never did I think that we would have trouble as a country determining the right bathroom or determining what gender we are, as if this issue with homosexual marriages and cohabiting wasn’t enough. We can only pray that people like Mike Huckabee will be able to impact Trump in that regard and steer him in the right direction. Our military, our economy, yes – absolutely important items on the agenda. But morally, we are going straight down the tubes and we can’t go any further. It’s an absolute must that we have to do something to straighten that out before it’s too late.

8. The politician I mentioned is no libertarian, but I just wanted to use that as an example of how he was persuasive. He just put together a good argument for that one instance. I think our perspectives on libertarians differ. Libertarians have a consistent ideology – whether it’s issues such as right to work, education, or marriage, their ultimate goal is to get government out of it. Most libertarians have a philosophy (which I overall disagree with) of “if it doesn’t impact me, I’m for it,” which exists heavily in my (and maybe yours, I don’t know your age haha) generation. Some politicians, especially ones like Rand Paul, Thomas Massie, or Justin Amash, have some similar features of a libertarian. But overall, they lean more conservative and have been consistent with their views. Most moderates are too wishy-washy. They might say, “well, we need this…but not too much of this…but we don’t want to go too far to this extreme..” and often they’ll take the position that offends the least amount of people regardless of whether or not they compromise their values. Take Rob Portman of Ohio. He stands a good chance of losing his seat to liberal Ted Strickland this coming election, in large part because of his moderate stances on issues. There’s a substantial difference between Portman and someone with a consistent libertarian streak like Thomas Massie, or a hard core conservative like James Inhofe. You know where the latter two are coming from and what they are going to do.

9. I don’t disagree entirely there. I have said this in prior posts, there are some good things Trump has done. E.g. the political correctness, or lack thereof rather, for example.

I’m sure Trump will have some ads ready to go. He's caught on to the short attention span of many in our society, keeping his ads extremely short. So it’ll be pretty entertaining to watch. Our society has already gone too far, I think, for us to make a comeback – and that is with or without Donald Trump.