[Hoot Gibson]

I thought a man of your high standards eschewed personal attack in favor of demure but lofty analysis? At any rate, your misrepresentations of my state of mind notwithstanding, this is a republic according to Franklin and votes do matter. I have not agreed with the majority the last two cycles as far as President was concerned, but we may have turned the corner if the Congressional races are any indication. I'll wait for history to decide all the speculation about Trump if it's all the same to you. If he is the slime you think, we have no chance and who knows but that possibly the sun has set on American exceptionalism. If that is the case, no election will make a difference.

Still, I doubt that speculative character assassination will save us.

If you want more civil discourse, then try being more civil.

As for speculative character assassination, I think Trump has spent a lifetime committing character suicide. It is interesting that no Trump supporter aside from those being paid by the campaign have rushed to support Trump's statement that he and John Miller are not the same person. Are you all getting tired of defending Trump's obvious lies? nicker: