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05-14-2016, 11:28 PM
WideRight05 Wrote:First off, DMW, and I sincerely mean this, thank you for the lucid response. :Thumbs:
It's been a few hours since you posted that so you may have seen it, but I'll give you a nice run down of the governors and/or attorney generals that have stood up to that crazy order issued by the administration. Let me tell you that I agree with everything you said about this being a law used by Obama to bully the school system into his agenda.
Matt Bevin (I didn't vote for Bevin in the primary - I voted Heiner - but I sure love Bevin and the job he has done! You had actually already mentioned him, but I'll add this to the list.)
WV Attorney General Patrick Morrisey (A bit of a surprise to me)
Texas Governor Greg Abbott and Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick (Neither a surprise, but great to see)
outnumbered in their battles. Trump was able to pin them with the establishment, and unfortunately we let our emotions regarding the frustration with the establishment cloud our judgment in determining a trustworthy candidate to send. If this were 2008 or 2012, I might have been for taking this kind of risk, but considering we had multiple candidates that would have done well in beating Hillary and the establishment we did not need to take that kind of risk.
WideRight05 Wrote:I'm very interested in reading your posts TRT. You always provide insight and depth as to your reasoning. Regarding endorsements, though, that will not sway me. If Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, and Mike Lee all came out and endorsed Trump, it will not have an impact on my vote.
I would never try to impose my will on your right of choice Wide. These are some very nice posts and I am proud of you.
Knowing what I do about Hillary, and knowing what I do about Trump my conscience as of today will be clear when I vote for Trump. Other people that speak in authoritative and categorical terms in saying what Trump will do are to put it graciously, off base. We know what he has said, and where others see moderation, the explanation tends to be on point from what I have heard. For example, Steve Moore was pretty clear in supporting Trump's financial plan and said that on the few areas in which he and Trump had at one time differed, Trump has since indicated he was open to make the changes of which Moore would like to see. But, Moore was quick to point out in having said as much, that even without those 'tweaks' Trump's plan was quite solid. And for perspective on the matter of compromise, consider the changes that have followed the original 2,700 pages of the ObamaCare Bill. The rabid chipmunks are still feverishly publishing more regulations to add to the bill as we speak.
We'd all like to just pull the flush lever and see the horrors of the past 7 plus years go away. Where the President must remember he is constrained to be the Chief Executive, State officials such as those you have mentioned above are not as bound by their office. It would be hard for any Presidential candidate to speak adamantly as to what he will do about existing law. We have to work our way through this nightmare lawfully. But, Texas Lt Governor Dan Patrick for example, is someone who can and should stand up to the federal government in this matter of forcing our school systems to fully and openly embrace homosexuality and/or sexual identity confusion, or whatever the nom du jour happens to be. Like I have been saying, this administration has managed to repackage, redefine, or otherwise rename everything this society once held to be vile and offensive on the moral front, including the millions massacred on the butcher's block instead of being delivered into the loving arms of their intended mothers.
What is done, is done. The candidates, indictments notwithstanding, look to be set. Winston Churchill once said the only thing worse than having allies, is not having allies. We as societies deal with the situations we face at any given point in time. Right now, this nation is in a fight to see if we can reclaim the soul of traditional America, or if we succumb to the scourge of globalization. To me, the secret to survival is in the people recognizing the only thing separating this country from it's perch of freedom and liberty for all, is continuing acceptance of the "will of the people." Anything, and I mean anything else, is to bow to the specter of tyranny. Darrell Issa said only today that he was endorsing Trump. When asked why he said, (paraphrased) "It's simple. The people made their choice. The demographic of that choice cut across all categories. And the vote totals were of historic levels." When the people choose the issue is moot.
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Who Will Trump Pick for VP - by TheRealThing - 05-07-2016, 08:53 PM
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Who Will Trump Pick for VP - by Hoot Gibson - 05-08-2016, 03:31 PM
Who Will Trump Pick for VP - by Spirit100 - 05-12-2016, 02:26 PM
Who Will Trump Pick for VP - by Demarcus ware - 05-12-2016, 02:43 PM
Who Will Trump Pick for VP - by WideRight05 - 05-12-2016, 03:35 PM
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Who Will Trump Pick for VP - by RunItUpTheGut - 05-13-2016, 08:47 AM
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Who Will Trump Pick for VP - by Hoot Gibson - 05-13-2016, 10:49 PM
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Who Will Trump Pick for VP - by Hoot Gibson - 05-14-2016, 01:01 AM
Who Will Trump Pick for VP - by WideRight05 - 05-14-2016, 01:08 AM
Who Will Trump Pick for VP - by WideRight05 - 05-14-2016, 01:19 AM
Who Will Trump Pick for VP - by Hoot Gibson - 05-14-2016, 02:03 AM
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Who Will Trump Pick for VP - by WideRight05 - 05-14-2016, 10:30 PM
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Who Will Trump Pick for VP - by TheRealThing - 05-14-2016, 11:28 PM
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Who Will Trump Pick for VP - by TheRealThing - 05-15-2016, 02:44 AM
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