[WideRight05]

Sorry Wide Right but being conservative has gotten us absolutely nowhere. You seen where those consistent conservatives landed in this primary. While i do believe many of the candidates would have beaten Killary, they didn't beat Trump, so we really won't know. The populist won out this cycle because of the actions or non actions of politicians in DC now, is it fair to lump them all together? Not really, i'm sure some do better than others, but people are looking at them as one big group of do nothings. While being a certain level of conservative only matters to some, some of us don't really care as strongly about it. But hey, that's what makes America great, we all get our own opinions, and mine is i think Trump will surround himself with the right people when it's all said and done, and things will look a little brighter :Thumbs:

Being conservative has gotten us somewhere, the problem is that the Republicans have not used it much since the 1980's. Too often they have given in to the fear pushed by the media, that they need to send a moderate because they would turn off voters by sending someone too conservative - all while the Democrats send candidates like Barack Obama and Bernie Sanders that are far to the left. As mentioned in the prior post, they sent candidates such as Dole, Romney, and McCain that were more moderate but tried to pander to the right when election time rolled around. That did not work out. Name me a presidential candidate that was a real strong conservative since Ronald Reagan. Almost every single one of them were slightly right-of-center candidates that often tried to pander to the right when election time rolled around.

Our society has degraded to the point where people would rather have a candidate that is "cool" rather than competent. The Democrats figured that out with Barack Obama in the way they insulted his opponents, that anyone who disagrees is a racist, the opponents are these backwoods bigots, etc. Now Trump has insulted anybody and everybody that has gotten in his way in the least bit. At first I felt he was just trying to take out the establishment, but when he shoved aside the non-establishment members that were actually trying to work and make a difference in the House and Senate, that was when I became concerned that it was about more to him than just knocking off the establishment. He has chased away key allies that would be crucial to his agenda being pushed in Congress. We already are for sure going to lose Rubio in the Senate. The establishment's lack of action may have helped Trump, but all in all it was his constant use of insults and entertaining the crowds that led him to be victorious in the primary campaign.

You mention that Trump beat out these conservatives, but using that logic, Barack Obama has won more votes than anybody who has ever run for president, so should we support him? Should we support Bernie Sanders because of the mass support he is getting to the point where the only thing keeping Clinton going is the super delegates? McCain, Romney, and Dole won primary elections as well. Often times (See 08 especially) the conservative votes were split or the Republican establishment heavily pushed a candidate because it was "their time," e.g. Dole or Romney.