[Hoot Gibson]

Smoke and mirror logic, and not the point at hand at all. We didn't get 20 Trillion in debt in four years now did we? Even if we tread water under a Trump administration it would be quite a feat. The point is he does understand business and money and Hillary and Bernie who do not, have vowed to move us farther out into the financial challenger deep. So on the one hand we have a presumptive nominee who probably will do much better against the looming threat of inevitable financial disaster, while the other promises more of the same or die trying. That's not a difficult choice.

Waste is not even a consideration for Dems.

It is literally impossible to eliminate the federal debt in 8 years but that was the promise that Trump made. Pledging your allegiance to a man who promises to do the impossible - a man who has already filed for federal bankruptcy protection four times sounds like a nutty idea to me. But you are the lucid one, right? :biggrin:

I am unwilling to divorce myself from reality long enough to support the clown prince of the American left.