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Conservative Hypocrisy
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WideRight05 Wrote:TRT, the only thing I really have to add is that the thing that alarms me is that he doesn't really put together a strong argument against it as has Rubio or Cruz. The interview you mentioned where he said that, yes, I agree Anderson Cooper was biased. I actually have no problem with a woman being punished for having an abortion. Trump has defended himself being pro-life, and who am I to say he's lying? The thing that I see is moreso, I do think he is pro-life in some scenarios as he says but it's not as big of a priority to him as compared to other Republicans. Thus, I don't know how much he would try to accomplish in eliminating this horrible practice.

Now, as to my main point in this thread. I was going to start a thread on conservative hypocrisy but you stole the idea from me, ha. Not to hijack your original point, TRT, but there are definitely some things I want to get off my chest. Not directed at you, not taking shots at Donald Trump or anybody else on the Republican side, but wanted to express how disappointed I am with how this whole thing has worked out.

First off, in 2008 one of the big things we were disappointed about with what Barack Obama used to get to the election was a media that went completely for him. We were disappointed with the bias and bent of the media to do anything and everything they could to get him in. We wanted fair reporting. I realize you have some outlets that lean more conservative or more liberal, but you would think the conservative outlets would report this election fairly considering that is one of the things that they pride themselves on compared to the liberal media.

Instead we are seeing media outlets take sides. Breitbart (Leaving the Michelle Fields situation out of this) has developed a reputation for having been pro-Trump in most of their articles, The Blaze for being mostly anti-Trump. I don't believe either has offered fair coverage and both are well-known conservative sources. Then you have reporters stirring up bickering, etc. amongst the conservatives on these and other websites. Isn't this the same thing we complain about liberals doing?

If I were a reporter for either of these websites or other conservative sites I would call the election straight down the middle. I would be mostly numbers-based and factual in reporting results while definitely taking the time to report any time Cruz, Trump, etc. got in a good shot at Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders.

That's part of what has contributed to this massive divide. Now you also have our analysts, many of whom claim objectivity and being factual as an alternative to the liberals . I'm greatly disappointed in the likes of Ann Coulter, Wayne Dupree, many others. Not to pick at one, but I take Ann Coulter for example. She has been completely blasting Ted Cruz all the time. A year ago, two years ago, she was always all about Ted Cruz - as was Wayne Dupree. Now all of a sudden, they have become another attack dog which is disappointing to watch. Glenn Beck has played a big role as well in his non-stop attacks on Trump, but I thought that was a big thing he did last week to step up and ask for forgiveness for the role he has played in this massive divide, admitting he has erred. I wish others would do the same.

Lastly, the thing we didn't like about Barack Obama supporters in 2008 was that they did not act rational in the least bit. Look what's happening now. The conservative base is losing it. When you tear something apart, the goal is to build it back stronger than before. We are at the point where the base is too torn down, I think, to really be built back up for the election.

I don't like to pull blame on one particular set of supporters, but I do put a lot of this on Trump's supporters. TRT, before I explain, know that I do agree that many of them are not the redneck racist bigots that the media is trying to make them out to be. I know you mentioned voting Cruz first, but even though you would support Trump should he win I definitely don't question you being rational or you lacking facts to back up your posts. From the beginning you have made lucid posts with substantive arguments. Regarding most of Trump's supporters I read posts from, I just see many of them on other websites and social acting like Barack Obama's supporters did in 2008 and 2012. Totally irrational, unable to bring up facts, and just goes off to attack anything that could be a threat to Trump.

I do think Trump has done some good things such as toughening up the Republican party, defeating political correctness, and making immigration a big issue. I am thankful for that. I just think that now it's getting to the point, however, where it's getting out of hand and we're really in a lot of trouble if we don't do something to straighten it up quick.

This may look sloppy, I just don't have the time to edit.



Actually that was Chris Matthews. And the reason Trump answered as he did was because he was responding to a specific question, and one that was pointed and pressed home over and over. I'd say Trump decided to do more than lay his answer cleverly between the lines like the polished politicians of the preferred establishment ilk would have done. What would you have him say about it? At least he isn't glossing over the real problem which is sexual promiscuity on the part of women. Right? If he were to launch out into some preachy condemnation the media would eat him alive even though that is the true source of authority on the matter. We live in strange days. Murder and abortion are immoral and willful actions which will be punished by God, but we're not allowed to say that. The guile filled notion of the separation of Church and State has succeeded in thoroughly gutting the US legal system. And secular humanism, a debate based rationale based on current fads, has supplanted the law of God in the minds of our legislators.

But I have not heard Cruz or Rubio go into the matter with any degree of depth, where did you hear them do that?

On the media deal, main stream anchors first began what I would term suggestive news reporting, back during the late 60's early 70's, when they could not contain their contempt for our role in the Viet Nam conflict. After that things morphed continually more despicable until now, we see there is no longer any attempt at pretense. Republicans are routinely berated and Democrats are routinely given a free pass as we have seen with regard to the numerous scandals of the past 7 plus years. Today, the conservative media lacks the foundation of experience. Most are too young to remember the times before the days when liberals and media blamed everything on Republicans, when in fact, it was thanks to Reagan that the economy they grew up under even existed. Frankly, we've come to the point where true conservative media types are only to be had on an individual basis. One can certainly find a majority of liberal media on FOX for example. and they supposedly a right leaning outlet.

I agree with you. The election should be called down the middle, but then the Megyn Kelly's and the Charlie Gasparino's of this world would have to keep their narrow views to themselves. Which brings us to the point that offends me the most about the media. They see themselves more as pied pipers than reporters. You hear them say it all the time, so and so did thus and such and "we'll be right back to tell what that means to you." The believe they are supposed to tell us what to think, which makes them feel superior and gifted. They are not about to just let the people vote their consciences, no they'll tell them who they should vote for. And thus we see the huge stink they have stirred up in opposing Trump. You have to understand, this guy might be the one we need no matter what the oppositionists are saying. And which is why I have posted the following quote by George Washington: "If in the opinion of the people the distribution or modification of the constitutional powers be in any particular wrong, let it be corrected by an amendment in the way which the Constitution designates. But let there be no change by usurpation; for though this in one instance may be the instrument of good, it is the customary weapon by which free governments are destroyed."

In my view, the media, be they conservative or liberal, are playing the role of the usurper, stirring up emotionalism in order to foment support for their intents to disenfranchise the voter. And you know that I predicted the present chaos and irrational mayhem.

All I can say about Trump supporters is you don't see them going around trying to shut down roads leading to political rallies, or disrupting political rallies and etc. and etc..
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Conservative Hypocrisy - by TheRealThing - 03-31-2016, 10:22 PM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by Hoot Gibson - 04-02-2016, 04:55 PM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by WideRight05 - 04-02-2016, 05:02 PM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by TheRealThing - 04-03-2016, 12:22 AM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by RunItUpTheGut - 04-03-2016, 02:51 AM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by TheRealThing - 04-03-2016, 03:18 AM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by RunItUpTheGut - 04-03-2016, 11:34 PM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by WideRight05 - 04-05-2016, 03:26 PM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by RunItUpTheGut - 04-05-2016, 04:44 PM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by WideRight05 - 04-06-2016, 10:06 PM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by RunItUpTheGut - 04-07-2016, 02:28 AM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by TheRealThing - 04-07-2016, 02:46 AM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by Hoot Gibson - 04-07-2016, 05:34 AM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by jetpilot - 04-07-2016, 05:43 AM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by Hoot Gibson - 04-07-2016, 05:51 AM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by jetpilot - 04-07-2016, 05:59 AM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by Hoot Gibson - 04-07-2016, 06:04 AM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by jetpilot - 04-07-2016, 06:14 AM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by Hoot Gibson - 04-07-2016, 06:21 AM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by jetpilot - 04-07-2016, 06:27 AM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by Hoot Gibson - 04-07-2016, 06:40 AM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by jetpilot - 04-07-2016, 07:29 AM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by Hoot Gibson - 04-07-2016, 07:35 AM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by jetpilot - 04-07-2016, 07:55 AM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by Hoot Gibson - 04-07-2016, 08:05 AM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by jetpilot - 04-07-2016, 08:17 AM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by Hoot Gibson - 04-07-2016, 08:25 AM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by jetpilot - 04-07-2016, 08:38 AM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by 64SUR - 04-07-2016, 07:30 PM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by TheRealThing - 04-08-2016, 03:06 AM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by Hoot Gibson - 04-08-2016, 07:37 AM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by jetpilot - 04-08-2016, 08:13 PM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by Hoot Gibson - 04-08-2016, 11:50 PM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by TheRealThing - 04-09-2016, 04:17 AM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by Hoot Gibson - 04-09-2016, 07:23 AM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by TheRealThing - 04-09-2016, 03:42 PM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by Granny Bear - 04-09-2016, 05:06 PM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by Hoot Gibson - 04-09-2016, 05:27 PM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by Hoot Gibson - 04-09-2016, 06:06 PM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by TheRealThing - 04-09-2016, 07:11 PM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by TheRealThing - 04-09-2016, 07:44 PM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by Hoot Gibson - 04-09-2016, 07:53 PM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by TheRealThing - 04-09-2016, 09:30 PM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by Hoot Gibson - 04-09-2016, 09:46 PM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by TheRealThing - 04-10-2016, 02:58 PM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by Hoot Gibson - 04-10-2016, 03:38 PM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by TheRealThing - 04-11-2016, 04:41 AM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by Hoot Gibson - 04-11-2016, 11:36 AM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by TheRealThing - 04-11-2016, 03:08 PM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by Hoot Gibson - 04-11-2016, 05:25 PM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by jetpilot - 04-11-2016, 07:29 PM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by TheRealThing - 04-11-2016, 07:54 PM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by Hoot Gibson - 04-12-2016, 12:16 AM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by Hoot Gibson - 04-12-2016, 12:30 AM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by TheRealThing - 04-12-2016, 12:45 AM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by Hoot Gibson - 04-12-2016, 12:58 AM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by 64SUR - 04-12-2016, 02:02 AM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by ekyswvahsfan - 04-12-2016, 03:59 AM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by TheRealThing - 04-12-2016, 05:21 AM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by TheRealThing - 04-12-2016, 05:26 AM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by RunItUpTheGut - 04-12-2016, 06:28 AM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by Hoot Gibson - 04-12-2016, 10:58 AM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by Hoot Gibson - 04-12-2016, 11:13 AM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by Spirit100 - 04-12-2016, 01:37 PM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by TheRealThing - 04-12-2016, 03:13 PM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by WideRight05 - 04-12-2016, 05:46 PM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by TheRealThing - 04-12-2016, 10:32 PM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by Hoot Gibson - 04-12-2016, 10:43 PM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by jetpilot - 04-13-2016, 02:48 AM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by jetpilot - 04-13-2016, 02:49 AM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by jetpilot - 04-13-2016, 02:55 AM
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Conservative Hypocrisy - by jetpilot - 04-13-2016, 03:32 AM
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Conservative Hypocrisy - by jetpilot - 04-13-2016, 03:33 AM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by TheRealThing - 04-13-2016, 03:55 AM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by TheRealThing - 04-13-2016, 04:39 AM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by jetpilot - 04-13-2016, 04:53 AM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by Hoot Gibson - 04-13-2016, 05:13 AM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by jetpilot - 04-13-2016, 05:29 AM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by jetpilot - 04-13-2016, 05:32 AM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by Hoot Gibson - 04-13-2016, 05:46 AM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by Hoot Gibson - 04-13-2016, 05:51 AM
Conservative Hypocrisy - by jetpilot - 04-13-2016, 05:54 AM
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Conservative Hypocrisy - by WideRight05 - 04-13-2016, 05:44 PM
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