[The Urban Sombrero]

I started that line of thought if you'd care to go back through the posts.

Run said homosexuality is a mental disease.

Memo said he wasn't concerned that gossips and whatever give us diseases by just being in their presence.

You side stepped that point entirely, and returned to your assertion, (to which Memo had not addressed BTW) that homosexuality is pedestrian in nature by comparison to your list.

I redressed your error with another post.

That sound about right RV?

So, allow me to point something out to you. The posters are all talking past each other just a bit there. Everyone making the points they chose to emphasize. And I can appreciate that. My point was not to castigate or call for the shunning or isolation of homosexuals, but to point out that God spoke of the significance of a preeminent surge, or acceptance of, the practice of homosexual activity in any society. Such marks the end, and in the same argument ending terms as being buried in fire and brimstone.

Let me try to put it in different terms. Some things change people in a way that cannot be undone, ever. Talk to a Dad who had taken his young son out on a hunting trip, only to see it end in horror. The gun went off and the son ultimately died of his wound. From that day forward, life as that Dad knew it was over. He cannot go back even though he'd give anything and everything to do it. That day was a signpost in the life of that Dad and his precious son.

As I pointed out, marked homosexuality such as we see in our day serves as a signpost. God has pointed that out, and I for one can see it for what it is apart from liberal talking points. Men are inherently flawed and they are born dead in trespass and sin. Only God's perfect sacrifice in the Person of His precious Son's death on the cross will save any of us. His world, His Creation, His rules. Therefore God's warning to the homosexual on an individual level. He says man, if you do this, I will have no choice but to turn my back on you. Hence, some things cannot be changed in eternity as well.

The signpost for all mankind is the Cross. God cannot and will not forgive those who reject so great a salvation. The measure of the horror and the penalty for sin, is reflected in the measure of sacrifice of God giving His own precious Son to die in our place. Because we deserve to die. So, the homosexual already has the Advocate of advocates in the Person of God's Son. If He can't get it done I doubt sincerely that you can.

And, yet again, I am not serving as an apologist nor advocate for homosexuality. If you are suggesting that the widespread trumpeting of the homosexual lobby to be recognized as a group facing discrimination symbolizes that the end is near, you will really get no gruff from me. However, if you are suggesting that a nation's Constitution, deeply reverencing freedom of conscience, is meant to function like a southern Baptist deacon board, I disagree. Every Christian Church can refuse to marry same sex couples, refuse them membership, excommunicate them. That is their choice and right if conscience compel. However, the United States of America is not a church, was not intended to be a church, and by law is not governed as a church.