02-03-2016, 06:14 PM
Guess I’ll give your post a shot Scribbles.
I like Greg Newsome so don't get me wrong when I point this out. In 2012, they played zero teams from Indiana, zero teams from the 11th Region (Lexington), 1 team from "Ashland" in Boyd County (11-19), 1 team from the 6th Region (Doss), and 1 from the 7th Region (Central).
They also played Piarist (twice), Phelps (twice), 0-31 Riverside Christian, and 6-24 Monticello.
You sure you want to compare schedules again?
2013 doesn't look much better.
By the way, Piarist is a required part of the schedule unfortunately now. It wasn't required on the 2012 schedule.
There are only 5 other teams with a winning record in the 15th this year. Might have to do a lot with why they have limited wins over teams with winning records (Johnson Central, South Floyd, East Ridge)
Yeah, his Uncle hooked him up with a match against Louisville Male in the first round of his tournament at Scott County. Real nice draw. Not to mention they played Lexington Christian (18-12) that year at Scott County as well earlier in the season. Not sure what any of that had to do with finishing runner up in the Region in his first year but that's a good thing by the way.
The 2015 schedule was no easier or harder than what SV has always done. I see another district title and All A Region Title regardless of the record. They were spanked by JC in Regional tournament. Most teams were/would have been.
How do you know he is more worried about his resume than the kids or the program? If anything threads like this illustrate why he would be worried about his own future at Shelby Valley.
I wasn't trying to compare him to previous years, just doing it to prove a point that he is keeping them competitive and not ruining the program as some people say. You can complain all you want about losing in Regional Tournament to Johnson Central like he has both years he has been there, but nobody was going to beat them the last 2 years just like nobody will beat Lawrence County this year. Speaks highly that they have been eliminated by the eventual Region champ both years.
Do I like the guy? Yes. But I am also driven by statistics and accomplishments and can see things in an unbiased way. And based on what I see he is keeping them competitive despite a lack of support from a small number of fans who hide behind screens instead of taking the issues to him themselves.
That being said, we’re all entitled to our own opinions on all coaches. It’s part of it, and what makes it so frustrating/rewarding to coach at the same time.
Scribbles Wrote:Comparing apples and oranges.
2012 Newsome, Belter, Richardson, Hamilton, Swindall were either starters or major role players. Took a lot of losses that season but played good teams from Louisville, Ashland, and Indianna.
I like Greg Newsome so don't get me wrong when I point this out. In 2012, they played zero teams from Indiana, zero teams from the 11th Region (Lexington), 1 team from "Ashland" in Boyd County (11-19), 1 team from the 6th Region (Doss), and 1 from the 7th Region (Central).
They also played Piarist (twice), Phelps (twice), 0-31 Riverside Christian, and 6-24 Monticello.
You sure you want to compare schedules again?
2013 doesn't look much better.
By the way, Piarist is a required part of the schedule unfortunately now. It wasn't required on the 2012 schedule.
There are only 5 other teams with a winning record in the 15th this year. Might have to do a lot with why they have limited wins over teams with winning records (Johnson Central, South Floyd, East Ridge)
Scribbles Wrote:2013 add Grant Counties best player to that crew, play a couple tough tournaments but get good draws since they are hosted by your uncle or buddy and do well, and finish runner up in region.
Yeah, his Uncle hooked him up with a match against Louisville Male in the first round of his tournament at Scott County. Real nice draw. Not to mention they played Lexington Christian (18-12) that year at Scott County as well earlier in the season. Not sure what any of that had to do with finishing runner up in the Region in his first year but that's a good thing by the way.
Scribbles Wrote:2015 add East Ridge's best player to them minus Belter but add Wright who is this years second leading scorer, but only play very easy schedule to keep the coaches wins up so people like you can compare apples and oranges years down the road, but the team pays for in the region with a 40 pt spanking if I remeber correct.
The 2015 schedule was no easier or harder than what SV has always done. I see another district title and All A Region Title regardless of the record. They were spanked by JC in Regional tournament. Most teams were/would have been.
Scribbles Wrote:That type of decison making by the coach is bad. More worried about his resume than the kids or the future of the program. In two years from now people like you can talk about how he took a 15-12 team and got 20 wins out of them and leave out the transfers and the weak scheduling. But the kids and the fans still have to get beat by 40 in the regional tournament.
How do you know he is more worried about his resume than the kids or the program? If anything threads like this illustrate why he would be worried about his own future at Shelby Valley.
I wasn't trying to compare him to previous years, just doing it to prove a point that he is keeping them competitive and not ruining the program as some people say. You can complain all you want about losing in Regional Tournament to Johnson Central like he has both years he has been there, but nobody was going to beat them the last 2 years just like nobody will beat Lawrence County this year. Speaks highly that they have been eliminated by the eventual Region champ both years.
Do I like the guy? Yes. But I am also driven by statistics and accomplishments and can see things in an unbiased way. And based on what I see he is keeping them competitive despite a lack of support from a small number of fans who hide behind screens instead of taking the issues to him themselves.
That being said, we’re all entitled to our own opinions on all coaches. It’s part of it, and what makes it so frustrating/rewarding to coach at the same time.
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