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12-15-2015, 03:17 AM
Hoot Gibson Wrote:I don't disagree with Gruber and you about the stupidity of people who fell for Obamacare. The truth is Obamacare is much more like the system Hillary promised during her campaign against Obama than what he promised.
My problem with Trump is that he does not seem to be taking the campaign seriously. I encourage you to look at Trump's negatives buried in the details of recent polls. A new poll was released today that shows Trump losing head-to-head to Hillary by a 50-40 margin.
I believe that a good conservative can appeal to independents and moderate Democrats, just as Reagan did in the 80s. Trump is not a reliable conservative and his apparent tendency to speak before he thinks will cost him any chance of winning a general election, even against a criminal like Clinton.
Like Trump, Ben Carson is ill prepared to be president, but Carson seems to be working hard to get up to speed on issues and when I listen to him, I do not get the feeling that he is speaking down to me or assuming that I am as stupid as a typical Hillary supporter.
I hope that I am wrong about Trump, but it seems to me that he is simply relying on his celebrity and trying to play a presidential candidate without the benefit of a script. Time will tell.
Respectfully Hoot, you know I have stated several times that Trump speaks so extemporaneously, it is my contention that he would have gaffed by now in epic proportion if he had anything much up his sleeve. Therefore, I agree his statements are all off the cuff which is why I think apart from his limitations, (they all have some), he is being genuine. Take for instance his statement saying he would temporarily suspend Muslim immigration. I could not have been anymore surprised if the pressure cooker had exploded out in my kitchen. Bill O'Reilly proclaimed with earnest that was surely the end of Trump's run. Everybody and their brother have gone on TV avowing to a man that he could not legally do that. Surprise Bill, not only was that not his undoing, he's up in the national polls to 41% and as it turns out, under U.S. Code, the president does have the statutory authority to keep anyone out of the country, for any reason he thinks best. Per 8 USC §1182
âWhenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.â [Ben Swann]
How do we know he was speaking of a ban on explicitly temporary terms? His statement;
âDonald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our countryâs representatives can figure out what the hell is going on.â
Additionally, I do not believe a campaign designed to run interference for another politician as in the potential case of Trump for Clinton, that that person would be out saying things like Trump said today; âShe is the one that caused all this problem with her stupid policies. She talks about me being dangerous. Sheâs killed hundreds of thousands of people with her stupidity.â ---Donald Trump. That is pretty darn stout.
Trump's demeanor and personality remind me of several rich or famous people that I know at a personal level.
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Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by Stardust - 08-10-2015, 05:02 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by Granny Bear - 08-10-2015, 05:07 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by 64SUR - 08-10-2015, 05:36 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by Granny Bear - 08-10-2015, 05:58 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by Hoot Gibson - 08-10-2015, 10:50 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by 64SUR - 08-10-2015, 11:51 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by RunItUpTheGut - 08-10-2015, 11:54 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by Granny Bear - 08-11-2015, 02:20 AM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by RunItUpTheGut - 08-11-2015, 03:39 AM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by Granny Bear - 08-11-2015, 01:15 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by TheRealThing - 08-11-2015, 04:25 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by RunItUpTheGut - 08-11-2015, 04:36 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by Demarcus ware - 08-11-2015, 06:17 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by Granny Bear - 08-11-2015, 06:29 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by TheRealThing - 08-11-2015, 11:47 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by RunItUpTheGut - 08-12-2015, 11:26 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by TheRealThing - 08-22-2015, 05:40 AM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by Hoot Gibson - 08-22-2015, 03:48 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by TheRealThing - 08-22-2015, 07:22 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by 64SUR - 08-25-2015, 01:03 AM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by TheRealThing - 08-25-2015, 03:37 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by Granny Bear - 08-25-2015, 04:29 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by Demarcus ware - 08-25-2015, 04:39 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by TheRealThing - 08-25-2015, 11:55 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by RunItUpTheGut - 08-26-2015, 06:04 AM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by RunItUpTheGut - 08-26-2015, 06:10 AM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by jetpilot - 08-26-2015, 07:39 AM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by jetpilot - 08-26-2015, 07:43 AM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by Hoot Gibson - 08-26-2015, 09:12 AM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by TheRealThing - 08-27-2015, 03:21 AM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by TheRealThing - 10-14-2015, 01:33 AM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by ronald reagan - 10-14-2015, 05:22 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by TheRealThing - 10-14-2015, 10:34 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by Ring'Em Up - 10-15-2015, 03:10 AM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by ronald reagan - 10-15-2015, 03:28 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by ronald reagan - 10-15-2015, 03:29 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by WideRight05 - 10-15-2015, 03:36 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by TheRealThing - 10-16-2015, 02:50 AM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by ronald reagan - 10-20-2015, 03:11 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by TheRealThing - 10-21-2015, 12:46 AM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by TheRealThing - 12-05-2015, 03:26 AM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by TheRealThing - 12-09-2015, 12:31 AM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by RunItUpTheGut - 12-09-2015, 12:46 AM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by RunItUpTheGut - 12-09-2015, 12:46 AM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by Demarcus ware - 12-09-2015, 01:46 AM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by TheRealThing - 12-09-2015, 03:51 AM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by TheRealThing - 12-09-2015, 03:55 AM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by TheRealThing - 12-09-2015, 04:11 AM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by RunItUpTheGut - 12-09-2015, 04:55 AM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by TheRealThing - 12-09-2015, 05:43 AM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by RunItUpTheGut - 12-09-2015, 04:54 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by Demarcus ware - 12-09-2015, 07:47 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by TheRealThing - 12-09-2015, 08:25 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by WideRight05 - 12-09-2015, 08:40 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by Demarcus ware - 12-09-2015, 09:45 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by Demarcus ware - 12-09-2015, 09:48 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by RunItUpTheGut - 12-10-2015, 01:31 AM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by TheRealThing - 12-10-2015, 02:06 AM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by Demarcus ware - 12-12-2015, 06:57 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by RunItUpTheGut - 12-13-2015, 07:37 AM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by Hoot Gibson - 12-13-2015, 04:20 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by TheRealThing - 12-13-2015, 08:34 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by Hoot Gibson - 12-13-2015, 11:49 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by TheRealThing - 12-14-2015, 03:06 AM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by RunItUpTheGut - 12-14-2015, 03:07 AM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by Hoot Gibson - 12-14-2015, 03:45 AM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by Demarcus ware - 12-14-2015, 04:04 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by RunItUpTheGut - 12-14-2015, 04:47 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by Demarcus ware - 12-14-2015, 05:41 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by TheRealThing - 12-14-2015, 07:35 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by RunItUpTheGut - 12-14-2015, 08:08 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by Demarcus ware - 12-14-2015, 08:24 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by TheRealThing - 12-14-2015, 09:12 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by Hoot Gibson - 12-15-2015, 12:42 AM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by doubledown - 12-15-2015, 01:30 AM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by Hoot Gibson - 12-15-2015, 01:48 AM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by doubledown - 12-15-2015, 02:27 AM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by Hoot Gibson - 12-15-2015, 02:40 AM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by TheRealThing - 12-15-2015, 03:17 AM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by Hoot Gibson - 12-15-2015, 03:35 AM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by TheRealThing - 12-15-2015, 05:50 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by Hoot Gibson - 12-15-2015, 10:21 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by TheRealThing - 12-15-2015, 11:56 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by RunItUpTheGut - 12-16-2015, 01:19 AM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by TheRealThing - 12-16-2015, 03:20 AM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by Demarcus ware - 12-16-2015, 04:39 AM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by RunItUpTheGut - 12-16-2015, 05:49 AM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by Demarcus ware - 12-16-2015, 06:01 AM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by TheRealThing - 12-16-2015, 06:31 AM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by Demarcus ware - 12-16-2015, 07:56 AM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by TheRealThing - 12-16-2015, 08:20 AM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by RunItUpTheGut - 12-16-2015, 03:48 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by TheRealThing - 12-16-2015, 05:16 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by Hoot Gibson - 12-16-2015, 06:19 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by Stardust - 12-16-2015, 06:29 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by TheRealThing - 12-16-2015, 07:08 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by Demarcus ware - 12-16-2015, 09:41 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by RunItUpTheGut - 12-16-2015, 10:01 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by TheRealThing - 12-16-2015, 10:54 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by 64SUR - 12-17-2015, 03:35 AM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by TheRealThing - 12-17-2015, 05:42 AM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by Spirit100 - 12-17-2015, 08:22 AM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by RunItUpTheGut - 12-18-2015, 02:50 AM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by 64SUR - 12-18-2015, 04:46 AM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by TheRealThing - 12-18-2015, 06:11 AM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by RunItUpTheGut - 12-18-2015, 03:30 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by WideRight05 - 12-18-2015, 05:08 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by Demarcus ware - 12-18-2015, 05:11 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by TheRealThing - 12-18-2015, 08:23 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by TheRealThing - 12-18-2015, 09:54 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by TheRealThing - 12-18-2015, 10:07 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by Demarcus ware - 12-18-2015, 10:43 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by Demarcus ware - 12-22-2015, 07:38 AM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by TheRealThing - 12-22-2015, 08:11 AM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by Hoot Gibson - 12-22-2015, 12:48 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by Demarcus ware - 12-22-2015, 08:50 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by TheRealThing - 12-23-2015, 12:20 AM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by RunItUpTheGut - 12-23-2015, 03:26 AM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by Demarcus ware - 01-14-2016, 08:01 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by TheRealThing - 01-14-2016, 09:28 PM
Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by WideRight05 - 01-14-2016, 10:07 PM
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Trump, the political hurricane, still rages - by Hoot Gibson - 01-15-2016, 07:03 AM
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