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02-16-2006, 12:47 AM
"DTA" Wrote:Fball 24 7, It appears to me that you no from experience that JUST bball coaches LIE and MISLEAD KIDS to keep them in only one sport.Please, find ONE example in ANY post I've put on here that said "JUST bball coaches LIE and MISLEAD KIDS." You can't. I didn't.
I DO know (K-n-o-W) from experience that SOME bball coaches LIE and MISLEAD KIDS to keep them in only one sport (BIG difference than accusing me of saying JUST bball coaches lie and mislead kids...actually, I know of a few FOOTBALL coaches that do the same for their sport and baseball coaches too...but notice, this thread was sent to BASKETBALL PLAYERS that MIGHT have more opportunities than they think -- I'm trying to, now get this, HELP some kids expand their opportunities).
Why are you punching at someone trying to HELP kids.
Makes YOU sound a little DEFENSIVE about something you might've done in the past???
"DTA" Wrote:I cannot believe those irresponsible bball coaches, they need to be fired! Would you allow a coach of any sport to control what your kid played? I do not think so but if you did then you are not much of a parent.
I don't think they should be FIRED; but I do think if the AD/Principal knows one of his coaches is doing something that might limit a kids' potential future success, I think he/she should be REPRIMANDED and WARNED not to do it again.
"DTA" Wrote:You also said this is high school sports dealing with high school kids, I think those HS kids turn into college kids if I am not badly informed.Yes. I said that when you brought up something about JJ Reddick. That was about a COLLEGE player when this post is about HIGH SCHOOL players missing out on opportunities.
You were bringing "oranges" into a conversation about "apples." If you're unable to understand why my response makes sense, there's no amount of reasoning I can do now to further explain it to where you can understand it.
Let's just leave it at you know high schoolers turn into college kids and we'll allow those that were able to follow my original point to you not to be bored again with me explaining to you why JJ Reddick doesn't help your argument.
"DTA" Wrote:I would also like to ask you this, I have witnessed fball coaches BEG kids to play fball(not just bball players), how does that coach feel if that kid plays and breaks a leg or something when he had no interest in playing but he was BEGGED by the coach. I can tell you, that coach would have no remorse because it was "part of the game".
As someone that works with kids training them to become the best athlete they can become, and in doing so puts them in sometimes injury-threatening situations, I can tell you that I have INCREDIBLE sadness for a player that is injured in ANY setting -- but ESPECIALLY one I'm training!!!
But, you've got to remember, that kid is CHOOSING to come to me to make himself his best and give himself the best chance at a scholarship/championship/etc.
The kid that has a FB coach "beg" him to play STILL has the option to say "no, I'm afraid I might get injured and hurt my chances in basketball this season."
If he says "no," and the FB coach FORCES him to play football, and THEN he breaks a leg, then YES, that FB coach SHOULD feel remorse because he FORCED him to play!
Other than THAT scenario, it should be obvious to ANYONE that can follow logic, that if the kid says, "yes," HE is the one taking the RISK involved.
The FB coach may REGRET the fact that the kid got hurt, but I'd say the word REMORSE doesn't fit...that would imply the coach did something UNETHICAL or IMMORAL.
Football is a dangerous sport (as is basketball by the way -- have personally witnessed THREE season-ending basketball injuries this season...saw only ONE during all the football I followed). A kid that CHOOSES to play KNOWS the inherent risks involved...or if they don't, they've not been allowed to watch TV all their life!
"DTA" Wrote:Let kids play what they want when they want.I'm glad we agree on something!!!
"DTA" Wrote:The bottom line is if that kid wants to play he will play,whether it be bball,fball,soccer or even cheerleading....it is his or her decision.Again, we agree.
BUT, I am making the point that there are SOME adults out there (notice, I never say words like "all" or "just bball coaches") that will attempt to coerce a kid into JUST playing bball.
So even though it is ultimately THEIR decision, I think they should have ALL the FACTS from more than ONE PREJUDICED source before making that decision!
Serious question for you: Are you against kids knowing these SCHOLARSHIP OPPORTUNITY FACTS comparisons?
If so, why would you NOT want them to know?
"DTA" Wrote:I just think scholarship numbers are a way to try coherse KIDS into playing.You're entitled to your opinion. But that's what that is...an OPINION.
What I stated in the ORIGINAL post in this thread were FACTUAL information.
I'm perfectly okay with kids comparing your "opinions" with the real "facts" before they make a decision.
"DTA" Wrote:One last thing, Do you think it professional for a coach to call a kid %#$** for not playing a sport? Seen it,heard it,looked down on it. I agree with your numbers of scholarshipsNo. Completely UNprofessional -- if %#$** means what I think it might mean.
If it means "short-sighted" or "limiting" or "talent-wasting," then I'd say that coach isn't being unprofessional...I'd say he's trying to be honest with the kid to HELP him.
"DTA" Wrote:but not your speech.:nope:WHOA!!! Are you accusing ME of calling a kid %#$**???
If so, please show me where I said anything like that?
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