[former_raider80]

How many wins would the suns have without Nash? Spurs without Duncan? Mavs without Dirk Nowiski (sp)? These are the stars on the best teams. Until Kobe carries his team to victories, his huge point totals do not make him valuable. --- Would the Lakers be a better team today if they had kept Shaq instead on Kobe? I think so. He cannot be MVP until he is the best player on championship caliber team.

Now cowboy he is the best player in the league and one of the best players of all time.....yea he is not on a championship team but he is still the best player....