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08-14-2014, 09:46 AM
TheRealVille Wrote:Remember, Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.
Iraq was a war based on lies of the 2 war criminals at the top of the heap. It had an evil man running the country, but at least he had control of Iraq. America kind of has a moral obligation to help some in Iraq, we put their country in turmoil.
Usually I'm a little reluctant to quote you as I would rather not repost your DNC infused anti-American rhetoric. However, this time your last sentence did contain a shred of truth. But, first things first.
1) "Iraq had nothing to do with 911."
Knowledge they say is power, US foreign policy is a complex application of knowledge and military strength based of the world's perception of our land. For example, the Cold War culminated and ultimately ended as the result of effective foreign policy. Russia was at the time a formidable enemy of the United States. They shouldn't have been because we had just helped them defeat their German arch enemies in WW2. None the less and contrary to all La-La's misplaced trust in their fellow man, we were enemies.
As with all enemies, the only thing Russia respected was force. Hence, our nuclear arsenal was and is referred to as a "deterrent." It makes people think long and hard before they jump up on us. Russia had proven during the days of JFK's administration that they were a force not to be trifled with and, I know you are familiar with the story of the Cuban Missile Crisis of 1962. Long story made short is that we did in fact back down a very bad man in the person of Nikita Khrushchev. If we had not done so, the US and the world would be a very different place right now.
At any rate, effective foreign policy prosecuted by knowledgeable and courageous senior statesmen of the day saved the world from chaos. Contrast that picture with what we have going on today. Our President cannot say often enough that we will crawfish rather than fight if we are confronted off our own shores. George Bush took the fight to the world of Arab extremists and rightfully so. Terrorists had just murdered 3,000 innocent US citizens and done as it turned out, 3 trillion dollars worth of damage to our land and our economy. And for the record, the savior of the Democrat Party (Bill Clinton) had just spent 8 long years proving to terrorists that the US wanted to play nicey nicey, and you see what that got us. Downsizing the US military, throttling the CIA and pulling back our military presence, brought us 911. Appeasement does not work, now, in the past or in the future. One takes the fight to his enemy or he is conquered. That in spite of the acid refluxesque default setting of the liberal who, no matter how hard or often is hit in the nose with the reality of the brutality of many of the much vaunted "Global Community," will continue to grovel at the feet of true war criminals.
Foreign policy isn't just running around the world with a fist full of dollars buying our friends ala, Hillary Clinton and now John Kerry at the direction of only one man, the Grand Pooba. How much money would you suppose Jack Kennedy would have needed to buy off Khrushchev? The idea is as ridiculous as hiding from the truth, which is the chosen path of the pacifist.
2) "Iraq was a war based on lies."
Well, I hate to tell you but, if it was, Nancy and Hillary were leading the charge as much as anybody. To keep the wolves at bay we must keep a presence in-theater. But, no we had to scram out of there to make Barack look good. Iraq was in turmoil during the war but, normalcy had been restored to a level that hadn't been seen since another pacifist liberal in the person of Jimmy Carter stood idly by, and watched the Shah be overthrown back in the 70's.
The plan was to stay there and effect foreign policy in-theater. Not to withdraw completely out of the region, thusly pouring gas on the fires of rebellion otherwise known as the Arab Spring. This is when stability in the region was cast to the wind, as our own state department supported the overthrow of one leader after the other. Heck, we're still doing the same thing as we speak, calling for the ouster of the leader of Iraq and trying to get rid of Syrian leadership. We did have a moral obligation in Iraq just as you say, and turning our back on that obligation has created one heck of a mess. Part of which according to analysts, is the unraveling of NATO and the rise of Putin.
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