[topnotch]

Oh, gotcha, so this has happened gradually. THat's a shame. But usually if there's a tradition, even if there is a down period, those schools somehow come back to prominence at some point. It's teams without the tradition (like mine) that find it hard to change the culture and tradition and become a winning program consistently.

When I say they were very very good that means this year they blew the first seven games away with this 6foot 1 200 lb qb that could run over you. After 7 game of straight hard nose winning football we decided that wasn't good enough and changed the plays and ended up changing the player positions and we couldn't even score an extra point 2 out of 14 we ended up we couldn't beat anybody.