[TheRealThing]

As long as Republicans are the minority party in the U.S. Senate, then McConnell's vote on anything does not matter unless it is cast to block votes on Democratic bills on the floor. What he did to Cruz and the other true conservatives in the House and Senate was to ensure that Obamacare continues damaging this country's economy. I have never seen two worse negotiators than Boehner and McConnell. They are so bad, I suspect that they are fully on board with the Obama agenda. Why that would be, I have not a clue, but surely these men cannot be as stupid as they so often seem.

Do you realize that in supporting Obamacare with his vote, he was supporting government funding for abortion? McConnell is a deal maker who runs as a conservative and then governs according polls and focus groups.

You can tell yourself that McConnell is standing up for the principles in which you believe, but all he does is pay lip service to those principles to get your vote.

I don't mean to sound like I am lecturing you, TRT, because for years I have voted for Republicans as the lesser of two evils, just as you and Harry are advocating. I am just sharing my reasons for abandoning that strategy. Guys like McConnell have done enough damage to the GOP. If the GOP will not clean its own house, then I intend to help do it for them.

I understand and your points are all valid. In no way am I defending him and I certainly did not mean to indicate McConnell stands up for Christian principles. All I meant was that he like all RINO's, votes against the liberal agenda the vast majority of the time.

I believe that in his mind, he feels strongly about his stated values and conservative principles. Obviously, if he'd an ounce of the real thing, LOL, Cruz would be his buddy not his whipping boy. And he would stand on principle rather than practice. No, I'd say it's possible that Mitch goes to church, albeit mostly for show and still feels good about it. But, past that, I think it's possible that he is naïve to the point where he has yet to make the hook up about the nature of the threat and what the stakes truly are, while Ted Cruz already gets it. Your point about ObamaCare funding abortion on demand is undeniable. Which is why I have always said that Republicans tend to adhere to conservative American values more strictly. I'd love to see him gone but not at the expense of seeing his seat go to Lundergan.

We'd have the same thing if McCain was Senate Minority Leader. And there in lies the problem. We could get by alright with a few RINO's sprinkled in among the Republican Conference as long as none of them ever ascend to a position of leadership. History called upon him to step up and be a statesman last month and he couldn't answer the bell. The bad thing is he doesn't even understand how miserably he failed us. Then we had McCain running his mouth and offering a scathing rebuttal and rebuke of Cruz because again, he is clueless as well.

They have outlived their usefulness and it's now past time for them to step down and make room for somebody who has their act together. Ironically, it should be them with all the wisdom and yet, it was a freshman Senator by the name of Cruz that has shown more understanding and wisdom than all of them put together. Saying all that to say I'd still take one of them over another liberal as far as my vote goes. Therefore, where it comes to fortifying the dike against the liberal flood. I guess I would rather put up a half a bag of sand over no bag at all. :biggrin: