[Belfry0304]

I think it was more who they were playing then.

I say trade Santana, while you can or make him a full time DH or FIRST BASEMAN. He stinks as a catcher.
He was doing better earlier this season, but he has proven time and time again he should not be playing catcher.

Maybe a mixture of both, it's prosperous to think there's no talent. There's talent. Just not winning games. I could see if the starting pitching was the problem.

Absolutely not on trading Carlos, but agreed with 1B or DH. Awful behind the dish and I think has a negative impact on his hitting. Him, Kipnis, and Brantley are the core that should be built around.