[Shady Grady]

A. No no no. The Cleveland Franchise is still in Cleveland. It didnt come to Baltimore. Even Wikipedia (the best source) says the Ravens franchise is only 16 years old.

Flacco will finish with a lot more wins that fattyburger. I stand by my statement that Roethlisturder is the most overrated QB to ever play the game.

You can appear in 400 SB's, its only how many you win that counts. Ask Jim Kelly.

Ill think about the Avatar bet However, to be quite honest, the Steelers and Ravens could be in 3rd and 4th next year nicker:

And thank you. Ive been waiting on this for a while. I enjoy reading your post and you are also a great contributor to this site. I will continue to hate the Steelers, but know that i dont hate there fans, i just feel sorry for them right now :biggrin:

So you're saying that the players that played the last year in Cleveland didn't play the first year in Baltimore? Same personnel, same owner, same franchise.