[TheRealThing]

Agreed pretty much 100%.

Also, don't worry about these guys getting a dishonorable discharge, that's not going to happen. I really hope they get Article 15's and they don't get court-martial'd though...in my opinion, the Administration (especially SecDef Panetta and Sec of State Clinton) went to far in criticizing these guys. It's bullshit that they unleash on these guys like it's the worst thing in the world, but all they can say about AQ and the Taliban is that they "condemn" whatever they do. That's it.

This is the way of things with people like Leon and Hillary. In their minds we're demonstrating to the arab nations and to the world, for that matter, that we are a good and decent people. Ever ready to wade in and severely punish American troops for any perceived indescresion which may seem offensive to our sworn enemies. They can murder Americans by the thousands using suicide bombers and by flying hijacked airliners full of innocent civilians into skyscrapers filled with innocent civilians. We, on the other hand, are bound by a rediculously high standard to be nothing if not gracious with them in return.

The extemist adherents of Jihad don't give a flip what we think, much less if we are gracious with them. The only way they would be happy with America is if they can kill us all. We give them money, equip entire militaries and then train them, bring them over here by the bizillion to educate them and set them up in business, how much is enough? This isn't failure to communicate our true intentions. They don't CARE what our true intentions are. America is the "Great Satan" to them.

This is demonstrative of the naivity which characterizes the liberal mindset. Nancy Pelosi actually thought she had settled the age old dispute in the Middle East when she had newly ascended to the speakership. In her mind she brokered the 'deal of the century' between PLO leader Yasser Arafat and the nation of Israel. All liberals think human depravity is due only to a lack of education, or an unhappy childhood. Of course, the truth was Mr Arafat laughed at Pelosi and made open mockery of her in his sphere of influence and, literally nothing came of her efforts. We can't seem to understand the rest of the world doesn't think like we do. Just sittting down and reasoning with folks doesn't always work. As a matter of fact, history teaches the unfortunate opposite to be true.

I favor the approach Theodore Roosevelt suggested we take, "Speak softly and carry a big stick" That's what got us free and that has kept us free. When we get too far away from this principle, as we are starting to do now by giving our sovereignty up for membership in some ill-advised league of nations, we will fall.