[TheRealThing]

As stated before, you are all for separation of church and state as long as it's one sided, where the state stays out of church business.

You may finally be getting the point, after all, that is what Jefferson was saying in his letter to the Danbury Baptists. BTW, is it just me or is it ironic you would need to cite an instance of one of our most profoundly influential founding fathers referring to his religious commonality as shared with his BAPTIST breatheren of Danbury, to demonstrate what you consider to be proof of the doctrine of seperation of church and state. Allow me to once again post the excerpt of the famous letter on which the whole of the liberal argument for the seperation of church and state is based.

Thomas Jefferson

"Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God; that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship; that the legislative powers of government reach actions only and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should “make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,” thus building a wall of separation between Church and State".

The clear meaning of Jefferson's statement is to support his position that the church is to be protected from the state, not the reverse. Additionally, to say that the founding fathers were not religious and that America is not founded on Christian principles is simply not supported by the documentation of the era. You can say it isn't so all you want, you can't support your position by any thing other than the case I have cited on here several times. The ACLU, a known enemy of the church, sued the State of New Jersey in the court action of 1947, Everson versus Board of Education of Ewing Township. This notion that religion merits no mention by any government official or agency is 100% the brain child of ACLU lawyer Leo Pfeffer. We sailed along from July 4th, 1776 until 1947 before we started to purge everything mentioning God out of government. Erroneous decision upon erroneous decision handed down by the courts built on one misinterpetation of a phrase in a personal LETTER,, written by Thomas Jefferson. Who'd have thunk it?

I believe we are paying the price for figuratively shaking our fist at the Almighty as we watch the fabric of a once great nation unraveling before our eyes. I don't think it's too late but, it's time to put on the brakes. The harder America's national heart turns toward God, the worse things will get. It is undeniable that we find ourselves in a downward spiral in the late 20th and early 21st century. That spiral flattened somewhat during the Reagan years but, has escallated during the last few years. We are a nation founded on Christian principles who, having turned our backs on God, find ourselves in real trouble. It ain't rocket science!