[WideRight05]

This is exactly what I'm talking about. Point straight to Muslims...

You don't see anyone on this board that has to put up with any Muslims trying to force Sharia on them or anywhere else in America do you? They don't have to deal with it everyday, or ever. It doesn't make sense to try and prove you're point by pointing to another religion and calling them bad.

This is what you people don't understand. The Christians I'm talking about outnumber these Muslims by ALOT. Plus, Americans don't have to deal with these types of Muslims forcing anything on them. They sadly couldn't care less what's going on in Iran. That doesn't mean it's not wrong, it just means they don't care because it doesn't effect them...it doesn't apply to this conversation.

Alot of Christians do what you're doing, thinking you can make the moral choice for these people by saying they don't want Sharia law. Most countries that are governed by Sharia actually want it, and take the punishment they get as a result of breaking Sharia law. Only a few countries actually have a majority that don't want it, and I can only think of two right now, Iran and Bahrain. And I'm not even sure that there is a majority in Iran that doesn't want it. You think you can judge what's right and wrong when you haven't even seen how they govern or been there. They choose to combine church and state, they choose to be governed under Sharia, and they deal with the punishment they get. In reality, not many people in countries that are governed under Sharia get the death penalty and get publicly hanged, beheaded, stoned, ect. They just don't. But, whenever Christians are questioned, they point to those darned Muslim terrorists and how bad they are. It's two completely different worlds, and you can't call rights and wrongs unless you've seen it firsthand, no matter how much studying of the subject is done. No one can.

I'm not even going to go into what terrorists groups do to non-Muslims, because their actions are denounced by everyone and are wrong to everyone, not just one group of people that look at Sharia and think it's so horrible. In 2009 we came up on a group of I think 6 men, ages 16-40 something, and there heads had been cut off. They were laid on their backs in a circle, with all of their feet touching, and their heads were put up against their necks so it didn't look like they were cut off from a distance. They were all Afghan Christians, and were murdered because they had built a Christian church in a town right outside of Jalalabad. The Taliban killed them, of course. These actions were denounced by all. That isn't Sharia like they want to claim. It's just not.

Muslims, the good ones, are the nicest people I've ever met in my life besides Mormons. I have never, ever had one Muslims try and talk me into Islam, or tell me he'll pray for me because I'm going to hell because I'm not a Muslim, or try and make me an outcast because I'm new to their customs and ways or don't wear what they where.

I am the last person that would be taking up for them. They are nice people for the most part, but the few bad ones have ruined it for me. I don't want to be around them, ever, and I have a hard time trusting them here. I recently changed doctors because one was Pakistani. It's not because I'm racist or hate their religion or any of that, it's because of muscle-memory and being so used to looking over my shoulder at them. Christians have ruined their religion for me even more because of the experiences I've had at many churches, the same experiences I mentioned in my last post.

From my experience, the average Christian can't hold a light to the average Muslim when it comes to being true to their religion and non-hypocritical. And that's not because of how many times Muslims pray a day or whatever else, it's because of their actions. How nice they are, how they don't judge by looks or money or clothes...I really, really would rather it be the other way around, but it's just not. I've experienced both worlds, lived my entire life pretty much in the Bible Belt and have spent 22 months combined in Afghanistan, where just a few years ago the Taliban government held public executions without trial, against Sharia laws and against the way that Sharia says someone should be put to death if they are found guilty of that specific law.

I have no "agenda" against Christians or any other crap like that...if anything, I'd have an agenda against Muslims, because I've never been shot at by Christians before. But these are my experiences and this stuff is what I've found. I thought that I could get away from these types of Christians if I changed churches, but they are ALWAYS there, always..and they manage to ruin it for me with their spiteful and jealous attitudes. It kills me, but it's the truth, and it's pathetic.

I'll add on to your post Vundy...

First off, I hate it you had the experience you did at those churches. It is unfortunate that you will find idiots like that in every church, no matter where it is. In a good church, people like that will be in the minority, with the majority being the kind, caring bunch. Don't give up on it, no matter how tough it may seem.

Second, I have studied quite a bit on Islam in the past. Only about 10% of Muslims worldwide are the radical Muslims you have talked about in your post. The problem is, 10% of around 1.5 billion (give or take a few) people is a lot. Most of them are in the Middle East though. A lot of the ones I have met at school the past three years have been very nice people. I see people pointing fingers and condemning these people at first sight. When you reach out to people of different faiths, there are "barriers" that stand up when people feel defensive. For instance, if I choose to rub fire and brimstone in their face and tell them how wrong they are, their defensive barriers will come up, and then I will have lost ALL hope of being able to reach out to them. All that will draw is a defense as to why they are right. Myself, what I do is just try to be as nice as I can to these people. I try to help them out, be a "good neighbor," and invite them to church events, things like that. Rubbing things like hell in their faces will do no good.