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12-30-2011, 10:35 PM
LWC Wrote:I have always wanted to know this answer, and I have never received an answer that I could make sense of.
From what I understand, Atheists do not believe in God or Jesus or afterlife, etc... and Agnostics just simply do not care OR they acknowledge that afterlife could exists but they don't know, etc...
With those definitions in my mind (If I am wrong, please let me know):
Why do a large percentage or Atheists and Agnostics have such a problem with Christianity?
That's an easy answer. Because the majority of you, and yes, I said majority, judge everyone and everything, they act in the opposite ways they say they do and the Bible tells you to. If it's any bit different, they shun it. Alot of them talk about Muslims like they're animals and how they're so wrong for fighting in the name of their religion...these Christians only focus on that, they don't mention the majority of the enemy that isn't fighting for religion. They talk about how horrible it is that they fight for it, when in the same breath they talk about how they're coming to America and taking over, and we're a Christian nation, all that bullcrap. They criticize others for fighting for their religion when they do the same exact thing. American Christians try to force their beliefs on people more than ANY other religious group I've ever seen in my life, and this includes Muslims. If you think or believe any different than them, they'll act like it's no big deal. But they use the most condescending tone, and talk to you like you're damned to hell and are less than them because you believe different.
American Christians are the most cowardly religious group I've ever seen as well. Not neccassarily around home, but as a whole, this is my opinion. You won't see one of these Christians stand up for what they believe in unless they have others to do it with them. American Christians will thank those of us in the military for our service when we get home, and while we're there they'll put us on prayer lists and send us care packages. But at the same time, if you ask them why they haven't served or disagree with the job we're doing, they don't believe in "killing" or war...these same "anti-war" Christians who were beating those war drums just a few years ago because it was the "right" thing to do. They think they have the knowledge to be some type of moral boss, and as a group, they completely alienate American Muslims and call them the enemy in the name of the Constitution, they say. The same damn document that says all men are created equal. They think they can tell us that what we're doing in Afghan or have done in Iraq is right or wrong, and they think that they can say those things because of what they believe in..when in reality they don't know shit.
I've watched a community and church of Christians completely make a family's life hell...a father, mother and two children. Ya know why? Because they were Asian..Chinese. From the moment they came into the community they started gossiping, which is the same gossip they "preach" against and call wrong, and started making assumptions without even speaking and meeting the new family. They didn't open a new family to the community like they swear they do, they shunned them because they assumed they were Buddhists. In reality, they were bigger Christians than they were, and they actually lived the Christian life instead of acting like they lived the Christian life.
I've also watched a young single mother shunned out of the church because of her clothes. She wasn't poor really, but definitely wasn't rich, and she would wear a clean pair of jeans and a nice shirt and jacket to church. They gossiped and talked about her for two months before a few women mentioned to her about wearing a dress to church, even though what she wore was perfectly suitable. When she said she didn't have any dresses, she was welcomed the next Sunday with a few old dresses one of the old ladies brought her and insisted she wear to church from now on, because it was "proper clothes for church". How in the hell can a group of 20 or so adults care enough about the damn clothes, clean clothes at that, a young mother wears to church to actually mention it to her, and then bring old dresses and insist she wear them call themselves Christians?! Her boobs weren't hanging out, and she didn't have half her ass crack hanging out of her jeans...she was dressed fine and perfectly appropriate for church, yet this group of assholes take it upon themselves to decide proper dress for church? Pathetic.
Also, one time we had some middle-aged man move to the community and start attending church...he was single and just lived by himself, he was around around 50 or 51. He was quickly pin-pointed as a pervert, because he would hug the young girls at church and say perverted things and hug them way to long, and touch them in very, very inappropriate ways. But, strangely, not one person, not even a male, said one thing to the guy. I finally went to church with my mom and sat behind the guy. When we were eating dinner downstairs, I personally watched him seek out and hug a few young girls, and be completely sick and perverted with them. You know what the parents and grandparents of the girls did? Not a damn thing besides keep their child with them and not let them hug them anymore. They were too cowardly to confront him about it. When I asked why they hadn't, most of their excuses were "Well I didn't want to cause a scene"...that's horseshit. I confronted the guy without a seen, why couldn't they? These "Christians" were such cowards that they would rather let a man continue to hug little girls like that and say those things than to say something to him, politely or non-politely, about it and possibly save a little girl when he decided to rape one of them. The most they did was deny him from being a Sunday-school teacher, which he really, really insisted on doing, by saying there weren't any more spots open instead of saying "You can't teach Sunday school because of the rude and inappropriate ways you interact with the children here", which is perfectly polite and a good Christian way of confronting someone.
When I witnessed what he was doing, and what these little girls' parents weren't doing, I lost it, and politely, without causing a scene, asked the man to step outside so I could talk to him. I even got him to walk across the road so I wouldn't be beating him down in the church parking lot and on the grounds, because that's insensitive and you're not supposed to do those things at church. I talked to him about what he was doing, and when he refused to admit it, I beat him until he did...across from the church, off of the church grounds, and without causing a scene in church. And I did it in the nicest way possible. Guess who wasn't aloud, literally "banned", from coming back to church? Me. Not the pervert that was groping and freakin' dirty talking 10 year old girls, it was me, the only person willing to stand up for them. This was after I told the preacher why I did it, and confronted them on why they hadn't said anything to the guy when I've personally watched him do those things to THEIR own children. I was the one told I wasn't welcome back at church, not him. To this day, almost a year later, I'm still not welcome, and they treat my mother differently because of it when she is a devout Christian and is in church every Wednesday and Sunday. The worst part is, the guy is still aloud to attend church, and his is STILL doing the same things he was doing before, and these people STILL won't say anything to him about it. That's what kills me. I could not care less that I'm not welcome their, they are the fake Christians, not me, and I did the right thing. Screw them.
This type of stuff is why I can't stand most Christians. Also, I'm not talking about all Christians. From my experiences though, and alot of others', it's sadly the majority. It may seem like I'm referring to all of them above, but like I'm saying right now, I'm not. I'm talking about the ones guilty of this type of behavior, any of it, and if you're not guilty of it and not one of the two-faced so called "Christians", then I'm obviously not talking about you. I'm not one to criticize any religion because I'll probably be going straight to hell, but I can criticize people who claim to live a Christian life, and then they turn around and do they kind of things they do. Gossip, get jealous of other Christians, judge people on their clothes or what type of care they drive like church is damn highschool. It's pathetic, and it's embarrassing to ever think I was part of that group of people at one time.
That's what I think. Again, I am NOT talking about all Christians, obviously. So if anyone wants to get smart and say "we're not all like that", read a bit and see that I'm not talking about all of you. Also, please, please don't tell me I'm going to hell if I don't do this or that, and don't tell me you'll pray for me because I'm going to hell or whatever because in you opinion I haven't "found" God...I don't want your prayers unless it's for me and my boys not to get shot on this deployment. I'm already in hell so save your breath. Gracias.
There ya go LWC. That's my opinion on the matter.
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Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by LWC - 12-30-2011, 07:04 PM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by LWC - 12-30-2011, 07:05 PM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by TheRealVille - 12-30-2011, 07:46 PM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by WideRight05 - 12-30-2011, 07:52 PM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by #1 Blackcat Fan - 12-30-2011, 08:21 PM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by WideRight05 - 12-30-2011, 08:29 PM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by Wildcatk23 - 12-30-2011, 09:31 PM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by Bob Seger - 12-30-2011, 10:27 PM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by vundy33 - 12-30-2011, 10:35 PM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by Bob Seger - 12-30-2011, 11:00 PM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by vundy33 - 12-30-2011, 11:06 PM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by Bob Seger - 12-30-2011, 11:38 PM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by WideRight05 - 12-30-2011, 11:46 PM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by vundy33 - 12-30-2011, 11:58 PM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by WideRight05 - 12-31-2011, 12:05 AM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by vundy33 - 12-31-2011, 12:15 AM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by WideRight05 - 12-31-2011, 12:16 AM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by WideRight05 - 12-31-2011, 12:20 AM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by Bob Seger - 12-31-2011, 12:23 AM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by Old School - 12-31-2011, 12:44 AM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by TheRealVille - 12-31-2011, 02:48 AM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by TheRealVille - 12-31-2011, 02:51 AM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by RunItUpTheGut - 12-31-2011, 03:40 AM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by Bob Seger - 12-31-2011, 05:06 AM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by vundy33 - 12-31-2011, 06:55 AM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by TheRealVille - 12-31-2011, 10:48 AM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by LWC - 12-31-2011, 11:16 AM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by LWC - 12-31-2011, 11:50 AM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by Stardust - 12-31-2011, 12:01 PM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by TheRealVille - 12-31-2011, 12:07 PM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by LWC - 12-31-2011, 12:18 PM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by Hoot Gibson - 12-31-2011, 12:25 PM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by Stardust - 12-31-2011, 12:38 PM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by LWC - 12-31-2011, 12:45 PM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by vundy33 - 12-31-2011, 02:58 PM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by Jarons - 12-31-2011, 05:14 PM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by Crossbones - 12-31-2011, 06:39 PM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by vundy33 - 12-31-2011, 07:10 PM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by TheRealVille - 01-01-2012, 12:35 AM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by LWC - 01-01-2012, 03:17 AM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by LWC - 01-01-2012, 03:30 AM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by vundy33 - 01-01-2012, 08:53 PM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by TheRealVille - 01-01-2012, 09:18 PM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by vundy33 - 01-01-2012, 09:21 PM
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