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Hell, you won't find many soldiers or Marines, at least the grunts I know, that agreed with invading Iraq. Especially when command makes infantry troops cops, guys that are used to and are paid to shoot people. The ROE went from shoot any hajji that gets close to you, to not shooting unless you get shot at, or a vehicle ignored warning shots. That's tough for guys in a warzone. We only had a plan for killing the bad guys, no plan for after. That's the main reason we disagreed with it, not all the political bull. The truth is, the intelligence was bad, everyone was duped, including our President and our CIA chief. Even Saddam wouldn't admit he didn't have WMD's. But that's a discussion for a different day..

The same problem with ROE(Rules Of Engagement) is occuring in Afghan. Remember the Scout-Sniper Marine, from Kentucky, Sgt. Dakota Meyer? He received his MOH because his friends were pinned down and surrounded in a village about 500m from him, he and his CO called in artillery rounds on enemy positions, but got denied because "it was to close to the village". Got denied by guys sitting in a office drinking coffee, who had no info on the situation besides what the two Marines and soldier were giving them. That is ridiculous, they were given good coordinates, and I fully believe that if they would've given them close air support/artillery rounds on enemy positions, Sgt. Meyer would have his boys instead of a medal.

Watch this video, and read the text. This is the kind of bullshit we have to put up with. Those Afghans came flying around a curve on a motorcycle, which is common for bad guys to blow us up with vehicle-born IED's, and they were shot. There's people that call that murder which is ridiculous. Even people criticize those boys cheering that they killed them. Sorry to break it to them, but everytime they die and we live, there's quite a bit of cheering. These Afghans made the mistake of turning towards these soldiers, I would've done the same thing. If they were ambushing them, and going to kill them anyway, they would've engaged them as soon as they come into view, but they didn't. People calling that murder really get to me. When we kill civilians accidentally, it's exactly that, an accident. No one wants to kill civilians, and they might not show it then, but it'll come back. We don't need to be criticized for every decision we make when it's a matter of living or dying...that causes guys to double-guess themselves, which gets people killed. They have no idea. Just a different world.

This video shows people getting shot. If you don't want to watch it, don't. It doesn't show a close up of guts and all of that, just what happened.



http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/pho...27/0692075

Read the first comment under the Youtube video, pretty much explains it for me. Also, read the crap Rolling Stones has about it. By the way, the "kill team" that Rolling Stone refers to? They were part of 1 squad in an entirely different units, are they are weak-minded pieces of shit and what they did shows it. These guys, in the video, did the correct thing given the situation they were in.