[Stardust]

I wasn't really interested in getting into this discussion, but I do think you're missing a few things in your justifications. One, St. X scored with 20 seconds left to take the lead on Manual and won 21-14. I think that's the complete antithesis of a blowout. Trinity bludgeons every team they play in the state (so far just three) - their result against any team is irrelevant in my opinion.

You also note that Manual had a haphazard effort against a terrible Male team, which they are. Male is 2-7 on the year. One of those two wins? Over Butler. And the other is over Eastern who you also rank ahead of Manual.

It's hard to view your justification as anything other than that Manual had Trinity and St. X on the schedule (while neither PRP or Butler have either) and happened to lose to those two following their win over Butler. If they lost to them Week 1 and Week 2 I think you'd have Manual ranked something like 3rd or 4th right now.

You say we'll soon find out but the reality is we never will. While Butler and PRP are facing the weak sisters of the west, Manual will get their head handed to them in the second round against Trinity.

Yeah, it's just like Boise St! I'm glad you got into it, it's my job to get you to discuss it. I don't really care what your comments are, just comment. When Manual is gone in week 2 then there will be nothing to talk about...