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12-17-2005, 06:18 PM

I've seen it happen plenty of times and I have to disagree with holding kids back.
It gives them an advantage over the people who are rightfully in that grade.
It allows them to play an extra year and get better but playing with other people their age and grade allows them to gain experience.
This would be the same scenario as Michael Jordan versus me one on one. He would gain the playing time, be able to work on plays, dribbling, shooting, etc. but it would not make him a better player experience wise. If there is no competition then you can only improve on minor things.

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Hold Backs - by THE BUS - 12-15-2005, 08:25 PM

Hold Backs - by ACE - 12-15-2005, 08:34 PM

Hold Backs - by -STAT- - 12-15-2005, 08:40 PM

Hold Backs - by bballmama - 12-15-2005, 08:42 PM

Hold Backs - by ACE - 12-15-2005, 08:43 PM

Hold Backs - by THE BUS - 12-15-2005, 09:03 PM

Hold Backs - by Cartman - 12-15-2005, 09:09 PM

Hold Backs - by -STAT- - 12-15-2005, 09:34 PM

Hold Backs - by -STAT- - 12-15-2005, 09:34 PM

Hold Backs - by THE BUS - 12-15-2005, 09:53 PM

Hold Backs - by thebestplayerever - 12-15-2005, 09:55 PM

Hold Backs - by ACE - 12-15-2005, 10:03 PM

Hold Backs - by Juice - 12-15-2005, 10:05 PM

Hold Backs - by thebestplayerever - 12-15-2005, 10:05 PM

Hold Backs - by ACE - 12-15-2005, 10:06 PM

Hold Backs - by crazytaxidriver - 12-15-2005, 10:10 PM

Hold Backs - by DTA - 12-16-2005, 12:47 PM

Hold Backs - by U Know Not!! - 12-16-2005, 01:07 PM

Hold Backs - by SuperStar - 12-16-2005, 01:08 PM

Hold Backs - by WOW - 12-16-2005, 01:13 PM

Hold Backs - by Fanatic of the 15th - 12-16-2005, 01:22 PM

Hold Backs - by Tomcat68 - 12-16-2005, 01:54 PM

Hold Backs - by JMac - 12-16-2005, 02:16 PM

Hold Backs - by JMac - 12-16-2005, 02:32 PM

Hold Backs - by m00se - 12-16-2005, 03:22 PM

Hold Backs - by WOW - 12-16-2005, 04:37 PM

Hold Backs - by SuperStar - 12-16-2005, 04:42 PM

Hold Backs - by JMac - 12-16-2005, 05:36 PM

Hold Backs - by BasketBallonlyfan - 12-16-2005, 06:05 PM

Hold Backs - by WOW - 12-16-2005, 06:11 PM

Hold Backs - by WOW - 12-16-2005, 06:18 PM

Hold Backs - by m00se - 12-16-2005, 06:25 PM

Hold Backs - by ACE - 12-16-2005, 06:28 PM

Hold Backs - by m00se - 12-16-2005, 06:32 PM

Hold Backs - by m00se - 12-16-2005, 06:37 PM

Hold Backs - by crazytaxidriver - 12-16-2005, 11:01 PM

Hold Backs - by THE BUS - 12-17-2005, 01:13 AM

Hold Backs - by BasketBallonlyfan - 12-17-2005, 08:58 AM

Hold Backs - by shafter9 - 12-17-2005, 03:00 PM

Hold Backs - by bballcrazee - 12-17-2005, 04:16 PM

Hold Backs - by ACE - 12-17-2005, 04:16 PM

Hold Backs - by thetribe - 12-17-2005, 06:18 PM

Hold Backs - by Quincy Jones - 12-18-2005, 12:22 AM

Hold Backs - by THE BUS - 12-18-2005, 01:17 AM

Hold Backs - by BasketBallonlyfan - 12-18-2005, 11:25 AM

Hold Backs - by THE BUS - 12-18-2005, 11:34 AM

Hold Backs - by BelfryJustice - 12-18-2005, 12:29 PM

Hold Backs - by WOW - 12-18-2005, 01:21 PM

Hold Backs - by BasketBallonlyfan - 12-18-2005, 03:25 PM

Hold Backs - by HappyGilmore - 12-18-2005, 05:34 PM

Hold Backs - by THE BUS - 12-18-2005, 05:48 PM

Hold Backs - by bballcrazee - 12-18-2005, 06:30 PM

Hold Backs - by TygerLil - 12-18-2005, 07:09 PM

Hold Backs - by THE BUS - 12-18-2005, 07:32 PM

Hold Backs - by TygerLil - 12-18-2005, 07:37 PM

Hold Backs - by The Retarded Frog - 12-18-2005, 08:07 PM

Hold Backs - by BasketBallonlyfan - 12-18-2005, 09:55 PM

Hold Backs - by rain man - 12-18-2005, 10:11 PM

Hold Backs - by ~snoopy~ - 12-20-2005, 02:12 AM

Hold Backs - by BasketBallonlyfan - 12-20-2005, 02:47 AM

Hold Backs - by Sony33 - 12-20-2005, 02:49 AM

Hold Backs - by JMac - 12-20-2005, 11:25 AM

Hold Backs - by 98 - 12-20-2005, 11:35 AM

Hold Backs - by 98 - 12-20-2005, 11:36 AM

Hold Backs - by JMac - 12-20-2005, 11:50 AM

Hold Backs - by BasketBallonlyfan - 12-20-2005, 12:33 PM

Hold Backs - by 98 - 12-20-2005, 12:47 PM

Hold Backs - by WOW - 12-20-2005, 02:35 PM

Hold Backs - by BasketBallonlyfan - 12-20-2005, 02:45 PM

Hold Backs - by JMac - 12-20-2005, 03:23 PM

Hold Backs - by JMac - 12-20-2005, 03:31 PM

Hold Backs - by 98 - 12-20-2005, 03:33 PM

Hold Backs - by JMac - 12-20-2005, 03:37 PM

Hold Backs - by Sony33 - 12-20-2005, 03:49 PM

Hold Backs - by thetribe - 12-20-2005, 04:44 PM

Hold Backs - by THE BUS - 12-20-2005, 09:05 PM

Hold Backs - by FrAnKeE - 12-20-2005, 09:15 PM

Hold Backs - by thetribe - 12-20-2005, 10:30 PM

Hold Backs - by rambo - 12-20-2005, 10:58 PM

Hold Backs - by DortonWildcat5 - 12-21-2005, 12:19 AM

Hold Backs - by BasketBallonlyfan - 12-21-2005, 02:48 AM

Hold Backs - by THE BUS - 12-21-2005, 12:19 PM

Hold Backs - by BasketBallonlyfan - 12-21-2005, 12:59 PM

Hold Backs - by JMac - 12-21-2005, 03:45 PM

Hold Backs - by bballcrazee - 12-21-2005, 08:32 PM

Hold Backs - by TERMINATOR X - 12-21-2005, 09:57 PM

Hold Backs - by TERMINATOR X - 12-21-2005, 09:58 PM

Hold Backs - by TygerLil - 12-21-2005, 10:58 PM

Hold Backs - by THE BUS - 12-22-2005, 01:13 AM

Hold Backs - by ~snoopy~ - 12-22-2005, 02:57 AM

Hold Backs - by bballcrazee - 12-22-2005, 04:25 PM

Hold Backs - by THE BUS - 12-22-2005, 04:56 PM

Hold Backs - by bballcrazee - 12-22-2005, 05:01 PM

Hold Backs - by THE BUS - 12-22-2005, 05:06 PM

Hold Backs - by bballcrazee - 12-22-2005, 05:17 PM

Hold Backs - by THE BUS - 12-22-2005, 05:25 PM

Hold Backs - by m00se - 12-22-2005, 06:13 PM

Hold Backs - by THE BUS - 12-22-2005, 06:49 PM

Hold Backs - by BasketBallonlyfan - 12-22-2005, 08:03 PM

Hold Backs - by BasketBallonlyfan - 12-22-2005, 08:16 PM

Hold Backs - by thetribe - 12-23-2005, 02:49 AM

Hold Backs - by THE BUS - 12-23-2005, 03:11 AM

Hold Backs - by BasketBallonlyfan - 12-23-2005, 09:48 AM

Hold Backs - by BC75 - 12-23-2005, 01:18 PM

Hold Backs - by BasketBallonlyfan - 12-23-2005, 01:25 PM

Hold Backs - by flashback_7 - 12-23-2005, 01:43 PM

Hold Backs - by BasketBallonlyfan - 12-23-2005, 02:08 PM

Hold Backs - by THE BUS - 12-23-2005, 02:34 PM

Hold Backs - by reporterforbs - 12-23-2005, 03:53 PM

Hold Backs - by HappyGilmore - 12-23-2005, 04:43 PM

Hold Backs - by BasketBallonlyfan - 12-23-2005, 06:43 PM

Hold Backs - by DTA - 12-23-2005, 08:11 PM

Hold Backs - by BasketBallonlyfan - 12-23-2005, 08:18 PM

Hold Backs - by WOW - 12-24-2005, 01:35 AM

Hold Backs - by warrior45 - 12-24-2005, 01:59 AM

Hold Backs - by DTA - 12-24-2005, 01:26 PM

Hold Backs - by BasketBallonlyfan - 12-24-2005, 02:44 PM

Hold Backs - by WOW - 12-24-2005, 02:59 PM

Hold Backs - by BasketBallonlyfan - 12-24-2005, 03:21 PM

Hold Backs - by ~snoopy~ - 12-24-2005, 07:55 PM

Hold Backs - by BasketBallonlyfan - 12-26-2005, 11:42 AM

Hold Backs - by thetribe - 12-26-2005, 06:05 PM

Hold Backs - by callmeclutch - 01-01-2006, 09:30 PM

Hold Backs - by callmeclutch - 01-01-2006, 09:55 PM

Hold Backs - by Bo Duke - 01-01-2006, 11:43 PM

Hold Backs - by m00se - 01-02-2006, 07:06 PM

Hold Backs - by Grizzly - 01-03-2006, 02:46 AM

Hold Backs - by Bo Duke - 01-03-2006, 08:44 PM

Hold Backs - by BasketBallonlyfan - 01-04-2006, 12:59 AM

Hold Backs - by WOW - 01-04-2006, 01:24 AM

Hold Backs - by Grizzly - 01-04-2006, 03:02 AM

Hold Backs - by BasketBallonlyfan - 01-04-2006, 12:52 PM

Hold Backs - by WOW - 01-04-2006, 12:57 PM

Hold Backs - by BasketBallonlyfan - 01-04-2006, 01:03 PM

Hold Backs - by WOW - 01-04-2006, 01:57 PM

Hold Backs - by M.V.P. - 01-08-2006, 09:31 PM

Hold Backs - by Ice man - 01-12-2006, 02:11 AM

Hold Backs - by basketballjones - 01-12-2006, 03:09 AM

Hold Backs - by WOW - 01-12-2006, 11:00 AM

Hold Backs - by basketballjones - 01-12-2006, 12:39 PM

Hold Backs - by m00se - 01-12-2006, 01:32 PM

Hold Backs - by ACE - 01-12-2006, 05:52 PM

Hold Backs - by BasketBallonlyfan - 01-12-2006, 06:43 PM

Hold Backs - by Imnottelling - 01-12-2006, 06:52 PM

Hold Backs - by WOW - 01-12-2006, 11:45 PM

Hold Backs - by basketballjones - 01-13-2006, 02:05 AM

Hold Backs - by BasketBallonlyfan - 01-13-2006, 06:10 PM

Hold Backs - by basketballjones - 01-13-2006, 07:23 PM

Hold Backs - by WOW - 01-13-2006, 10:20 PM

Hold Backs - by BasketBallonlyfan - 01-14-2006, 12:09 AM

Hold Backs - by DUECE67 - 01-15-2006, 10:54 PM

Hold Backs - by basketballjones - 01-16-2006, 12:58 PM

Hold Backs - by BasketBallonlyfan - 01-16-2006, 01:26 PM

Hold Backs - by WOW - 01-16-2006, 01:39 PM

Hold Backs - by Imnottelling - 01-16-2006, 01:45 PM

Hold Backs - by HappyGilmore - 01-16-2006, 04:23 PM

Hold Backs - by Imnottelling - 01-16-2006, 04:27 PM

Hold Backs - by BasketBallonlyfan - 01-16-2006, 04:28 PM

Hold Backs - by HappyGilmore - 01-16-2006, 04:42 PM

Hold Backs - by WOW - 01-16-2006, 06:47 PM

Hold Backs - by i-dono - 01-16-2006, 07:12 PM

Hold Backs - by Eagle Eye - 01-16-2006, 07:33 PM

Hold Backs - by free throw - 01-16-2006, 09:00 PM

Hold Backs - by Imnottelling - 01-17-2006, 01:38 PM

Hold Backs - by free throw - 01-17-2006, 04:44 PM

Hold Backs - by WOW - 01-17-2006, 06:15 PM

Hold Backs - by m00se - 01-19-2006, 05:27 PM

Hold Backs - by free throw - 01-19-2006, 06:32 PM

Hold Backs - by free throw - 01-19-2006, 06:38 PM

Hold Backs - by free throw - 01-19-2006, 06:45 PM

Hold Backs - by free throw - 01-19-2006, 06:48 PM

Hold Backs - by free throw - 01-19-2006, 08:55 PM

Hold Backs - by sf_football - 01-19-2006, 10:22 PM

Hold Backs - by Homer Simpson - 01-19-2006, 10:25 PM

Hold Backs - by free throw - 01-19-2006, 11:23 PM

Hold Backs - by Space Jam - 01-19-2006, 11:25 PM

Hold Backs - by basketballjones - 01-20-2006, 12:27 AM

Hold Backs - by Bo Duke - 01-20-2006, 12:28 AM

Hold Backs - by WOW - 01-20-2006, 12:32 AM

Hold Backs - by Bo Duke - 01-20-2006, 12:33 AM

Hold Backs - by free throw - 01-20-2006, 12:44 AM

Hold Backs - by free throw - 01-20-2006, 12:53 AM

Hold Backs - by WOW - 01-20-2006, 12:54 AM

Hold Backs - by RANDALL FLAG - 01-20-2006, 08:41 AM

Hold Backs - by BasketBallonlyfan - 01-20-2006, 11:37 AM

Hold Backs - by free throw - 01-20-2006, 11:48 AM

Hold Backs - by BasketBallonlyfan - 01-20-2006, 11:50 AM

Hold Backs - by free throw - 01-20-2006, 11:57 AM

Hold Backs - by BasketBallonlyfan - 01-20-2006, 11:58 AM

Hold Backs - by BasketBallonlyfan - 01-20-2006, 11:59 AM

Hold Backs - by free throw - 01-20-2006, 12:05 PM

Hold Backs - by BasketBallonlyfan - 01-20-2006, 12:11 PM

Hold Backs - by free throw - 01-20-2006, 12:16 PM

Hold Backs - by BasketBallonlyfan - 01-20-2006, 12:32 PM

Hold Backs - by sumthin05 - 01-20-2006, 02:48 PM

Hold Backs - by DTA - 01-20-2006, 03:04 PM

Hold Backs - by BasketBallonlyfan - 01-20-2006, 03:05 PM

Hold Backs - by basketballjones - 01-20-2006, 10:01 PM

Hold Backs - by WOW - 01-21-2006, 12:28 AM

Hold Backs - by ACE - 01-21-2006, 02:51 AM

Hold Backs - by ACE - 01-21-2006, 02:51 AM

Hold Backs - by HawkNation - 01-21-2006, 03:21 AM

Hold Backs - by TERMINATOR X - 01-21-2006, 04:02 AM

Hold Backs - by TERMINATOR X - 01-21-2006, 04:02 AM

Hold Backs - by TERMINATOR X - 01-21-2006, 04:03 AM

Hold Backs - by TERMINATOR X - 01-21-2006, 04:03 AM

Hold Backs - by TERMINATOR X - 01-21-2006, 04:03 AM

Hold Backs - by free throw - 01-21-2006, 12:25 PM

Hold Backs - by free throw - 01-21-2006, 12:26 PM

Hold Backs - by catsfan072 - 01-21-2006, 07:11 PM

Hold Backs - by HawkNation - 01-21-2006, 07:13 PM

Hold Backs - by WOW - 01-21-2006, 11:11 PM

Hold Backs - by free throw - 01-22-2006, 01:38 AM

Hold Backs - by free throw - 01-22-2006, 01:48 AM

Hold Backs - by BasketBallonlyfan - 01-22-2006, 10:37 AM

Hold Backs - by basketballjones - 01-22-2006, 12:36 PM

Hold Backs - by BasketBallonlyfan - 01-22-2006, 02:13 PM

Hold Backs - by WOW - 01-22-2006, 03:30 PM

Hold Backs - by BasketBallonlyfan - 01-22-2006, 06:30 PM

Hold Backs - by BasketBallonlyfan - 01-22-2006, 07:02 PM

Hold Backs - by WOW - 01-22-2006, 07:03 PM

Hold Backs - by BasketBallonlyfan - 01-22-2006, 07:05 PM

Hold Backs - by WOW - 01-22-2006, 07:08 PM

Hold Backs - by BasketBallonlyfan - 01-22-2006, 07:11 PM

Hold Backs - by WOW - 01-22-2006, 07:11 PM

Hold Backs - by BasketBallonlyfan - 01-22-2006, 07:14 PM

Hold Backs - by WOW - 01-22-2006, 07:15 PM

Hold Backs - by BasketBallonlyfan - 01-22-2006, 07:18 PM

Hold Backs - by BasketBallonlyfan - 01-22-2006, 07:20 PM

Hold Backs - by WOW - 01-22-2006, 07:38 PM

Hold Backs - by WOW - 01-22-2006, 07:40 PM

Hold Backs - by BasketBallonlyfan - 01-22-2006, 07:44 PM

Hold Backs - by GoBigRed - 01-30-2006, 03:40 AM

Hold Backs - by King James - 02-02-2006, 12:57 PM

Hold Backs - by Dream_Weaver - 02-02-2006, 01:04 PM

Hold Backs - by WOW - 02-02-2006, 06:10 PM

Hold Backs - by BasketBallonlyfan - 02-02-2006, 06:25 PM

Hold Backs - by Dream_Weaver - 02-03-2006, 12:28 AM

Hold Backs - by brokencard - 02-03-2006, 01:46 AM

Hold Backs - by wildman_06 - 02-03-2006, 10:26 AM

Hold Backs - by BasketBallonlyfan - 02-03-2006, 10:38 AM

Hold Backs - by preacherman - 02-04-2006, 12:15 AM

Hold Backs - by wildcat fan - 02-09-2006, 01:12 AM

Hold Backs - by ROCK*60* - 02-09-2006, 01:15 PM

Hold Backs - by i-dono - 02-10-2006, 06:32 PM

Hold Backs - by Baby $haq - 02-11-2006, 10:13 PM

Hold Backs - by THE BUS - 02-12-2006, 01:56 AM

Hold Backs - by DOC - 02-12-2006, 01:09 PM

Hold Backs - by BasketBallonlyfan - 02-13-2006, 11:36 AM

Hold Backs - by LEGEND - 02-13-2006, 02:33 PM

Hold Backs - by m00se - 02-13-2006, 04:36 PM

Hold Backs - by Big_Ben#7 - 02-13-2006, 04:38 PM

Hold Backs - by syoung - 02-17-2006, 04:07 PM

Hold Backs - by theboss - 02-17-2006, 08:02 PM

Hold Backs - by zonedefense - 02-17-2006, 11:57 PM

Hold Backs - by Tweety - 02-18-2006, 01:13 AM

Hold Backs - by DOC - 02-18-2006, 01:08 PM

Hold Backs - by The Chosen 1 - 02-18-2006, 01:13 PM

Hold Backs - by smoothie - 02-18-2006, 04:45 PM

Hold Backs - by smoothie - 02-18-2006, 04:51 PM

Hold Backs - by The Chosen 1 - 02-18-2006, 05:05 PM

Hold Backs - by smoothie - 02-18-2006, 07:07 PM

Hold Backs - by basketballjones - 02-19-2006, 01:33 PM

Hold Backs - by love@bball - 02-19-2006, 03:36 PM

Hold Backs - by Homer Simpson - 02-19-2006, 03:40 PM

Hold Backs - by Imnottelling - 02-20-2006, 01:28 PM

Hold Backs - by m00se - 02-20-2006, 04:29 PM

Hold Backs - by bballcrazee - 02-20-2006, 04:34 PM

Hold Backs - by m00se - 02-20-2006, 04:48 PM

Hold Backs - by go big blue - 02-20-2006, 06:34 PM

Hold Backs - by bballcrazee - 02-20-2006, 06:38 PM

Hold Backs - by syoung - 02-23-2006, 01:00 AM

Hold Backs - by THE BUS - 02-23-2006, 01:36 AM

Hold Backs - by 14thand53rdfan - 02-27-2006, 01:48 PM

Hold Backs - by ekybballfan - 02-28-2006, 05:25 PM

Hold Backs - by BlacktopOutlaw - 02-28-2006, 10:08 PM

Hold Backs - by Evil Twin - 03-02-2006, 03:48 AM

Hold Backs - by DunnThat - 03-16-2006, 11:37 AM

Hold Backs - by DunnThat - 03-16-2006, 11:47 AM

Hold Backs - by overtime - 03-20-2006, 08:06 PM

Hold Backs - by allthewayhome - 03-20-2006, 10:34 PM

Hold Backs - by BasketBallonlyfan - 03-20-2006, 10:57 PM

Hold Backs - by chicken wing - 03-20-2006, 11:51 PM

Hold Backs - by overtime - 03-21-2006, 05:22 PM

Hold Backs - by Don Coleoni - 03-24-2006, 06:48 PM

Hold Backs - by BasketBallonlyfan - 03-26-2006, 09:41 AM

Hold Backs - by 3 points - 03-26-2006, 10:35 AM

Hold Backs - by phs1986 - 03-26-2006, 10:38 AM

Hold Backs - by 3 points - 03-26-2006, 10:46 AM

Hold Backs - by phs1986 - 03-26-2006, 12:11 PM

Hold Backs - by 3 points - 03-26-2006, 01:29 PM

Hold Backs - by phs1986 - 03-26-2006, 10:16 PM

Hold Backs - by phs1986 - 03-26-2006, 10:20 PM

Hold Backs - by phs1986 - 03-26-2006, 10:28 PM

Hold Backs - by 3 points - 03-27-2006, 10:15 AM

Hold Backs - by Statmaster - 03-27-2006, 10:15 AM

Hold Backs - by 3 points - 03-27-2006, 10:28 AM

Hold Backs - by Statmaster - 03-27-2006, 10:29 AM

Hold Backs - by phs1986 - 03-27-2006, 08:30 PM

Hold Backs - by 3 points - 03-28-2006, 12:27 AM

Hold Backs - by WIZE MAGIC - 03-28-2006, 10:40 AM

Hold Backs - by Battle Tested - 03-28-2006, 01:57 PM

Hold Backs - by phs1986 - 03-28-2006, 02:08 PM

Hold Backs - by 3 points - 03-28-2006, 05:34 PM

Hold Backs - by WIZE MAGIC - 03-28-2006, 05:47 PM

Hold Backs - by Don Coleoni - 03-28-2006, 07:52 PM

Hold Backs - by WIZE MAGIC - 03-28-2006, 08:37 PM

Hold Backs - by crazytaxidriver - 03-28-2006, 08:51 PM

Hold Backs - by Gatortater - 03-28-2006, 09:16 PM

Hold Backs - by 3 points - 03-28-2006, 09:28 PM

Hold Backs - by crazytaxidriver - 03-28-2006, 09:45 PM

Hold Backs - by True Blue - 03-28-2006, 09:59 PM

Hold Backs - by free throw - 03-28-2006, 10:21 PM

Hold Backs - by 3 points - 03-28-2006, 10:26 PM

Hold Backs - by Don Coleoni - 03-28-2006, 11:11 PM

Hold Backs - by Don Coleoni - 03-28-2006, 11:20 PM

Hold Backs - by Don Coleoni - 03-28-2006, 11:22 PM

Hold Backs - by phs1986 - 03-29-2006, 12:57 AM

Hold Backs - by 3 points - 03-29-2006, 01:04 AM

Hold Backs - by phs1986 - 03-29-2006, 01:09 AM

Hold Backs - by NEXT - 03-29-2006, 01:10 AM

Hold Backs - by 3 points - 03-29-2006, 01:12 AM

Hold Backs - by 3 points - 03-29-2006, 01:13 AM

Hold Backs - by phs1986 - 03-29-2006, 01:17 AM

Hold Backs - by 3 points - 03-29-2006, 01:26 AM

Hold Backs - by phs1986 - 03-29-2006, 01:29 AM

Hold Backs - by BasketBallonlyfan - 03-29-2006, 09:44 AM

Hold Backs - by 3 points - 03-30-2006, 11:49 AM

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