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You really don't get it do you? When I say police the system, I'm talking about using the model of success we have. Our nation's historical record. People of integrity, moral and just common people, would have to do the policing through the concept of we the people,by the people, for the people, or self governance. That's what George Washington was talking about.

When Lyndon Johnson took up the cause started by JFK to establish the "Great Society" is when we as a nation took the fork in the road and got ourselves off of the path. In a nutshell, entitlements have us between a rock and a hard spot. Why? As is demonstrated by our present state of affairs, once you start letting the state take care of people there just isn't any way to stop at some point. Who can we say no to? You can't say no to anybody. Johnson was wrong, instead of things getting better they have gotten much worse. I submit most people don't work and don't vote because they are in fact lazy. This is the fight in Washington right now, elected congresspeople are using the promise of continued entitlements against the ones that want to cut spending as a way to expand and guarantee their voting base. They get on TV and make any unethical charge they can dream up to get an edge. Everybody in Washington, Dems and Reps, were onboard with entitlements, but now, the gravity of steely missles of fiscal reality have caused some to wake up. In your mind the Libertarians have all the answers, you explain to me how they are going to get people to vote for any of them in this political environment.

Our government gives money away to anyone who will immigrate here or will hold out their hand where ever they may be world wide. We give a free education to anyone who wants to come here from about anyplace on the globe. Our citizens have to get a loan, scholarship or by some means pay for it on their own. Until we can figure out a way to put the whoa on the runaway spenders in our state and federal legislatures we are in trouble. If the Libertarians could do anything they would have done it already. Not enough people listen to them, even though I think they have some, maybe 50%, good ideas. I'll say it again, you have to work within the system we have.

And as for getting the youth out, with all due respect, most youth can be manipulated if you're clever enough, and professor Obama is certainly clever. The liberal nutzo college profs from all over this land got the youth out as never before because the knight in shinning armor had finally arrived.

If the system works, we should have a voice, especially since we are the third largest party in America.