[charlie22]

SK beat Ryle a lot worse than Highlands did Miles senior year. Also Cincy St. X wasn't that great of a team but still Highlands most likely goes undefeated against SK the past 3 years.

Depends on what one uses to determine Cincy St X "wasn't that great of a team" in 09. If being a "great" team means winning a state championship, Cincy X has only had a great football team twice in modern history and since they didn't win State in 09, using that as a barometer, yeah, I'd have to agree that Cincy X wasn't great in 09. But I think you can be a great team but not win the D1 championship in Ohio because of the quality of football played at that level in Ohio.

I will remind you that in 09 they were GCL champs (a rather notable accomplishment in and of itself), and they beat Colerain, Indy Cathedral, Lou. X, Trinity (actually they destroyed Trinity), Elder, St Eds, and Moeller during the regular season. That's not chopped liver opposition as you know. Their only reg season losses were to Highlands by 5 and to St Iggy by 9 ( a Saturday afternoon game at Iggy after a 4.5 plus hour bus ride the week before the Moeller game). They beat Centerville in the playoffs and lost to Elder by three points in the playoffs. Elder lost by a whopping 4 points to Hillard Davidson. HD had a pretty good football team in 09 as you might recall. They won the Ohio Div 1 championship that year.

I know it can be misleading at times to extrapolate game scores, but the Elder team that gave the eventual Ohio D1 champion one heck of a game in the playoffs, did lose to Cincy X during the regular season and only beat Cincy X by three points in the playoffs. X was on Elder's level in 09 in my opinion and Elder lost a very close playoff game to the eventual state champion. I guess since Elder lost during the regular season to X and lost to HD in the playoffs, Elder "wasn't that great of a team" either in 09. The truth is that with a break or two Cincy X could very easily have been the Oh. D1 state champion in 09. And the additional truth is that both Cincy X and Elder had extremely good football teams in 09.

I think any attempt to devalue the Highlands win over Cincy X by discounting the quality of the 09 Cincy X team seems rather unfair to me. It's not like they went 5-5 and their 5 wins were against weak teams. It's not like their two losses to teams other than Highlands were to weak teams either. One of those two losses was a 3 point loss to a team that lost in the playoffs by 4 points to the team that won it all that year.

Like you, I follow Cincy high school football very closely and I know that the 09 Cincy X team was an extremely good football team. If Cincy X wasn't "that great of a team" in 09 as you submit (but with which I disagree), it was still an exceptionally good one.