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12-08-2005, 10:52 AM
98NCCalum Wrote:Recruit, of course we recruit,
98NCCalum Wrote:The problem with your argument here though is that your idea of recruiting and what we do is totally different.
Do we advertise in local religious publications. Yes
Do we advertise in local papers. Yep
Do we have a pee-wee football team? Hell yes we do.
Is this recruiting? Absolutely not.
I get the feeling it will not matter what I say, it will just be, how do you say it, "strictly mindless, biased, unproven thoughts from your mind." Hmmm, sound a little biased there yourself. By the way, one post says "we recruit", another says "absolutely not", which is it? :confused:
Personally, I don't have to prove my manhood to you. It seems that is what this entire thing is about. I get a good picture that in your posts really, no matter what anyone says, you will not waver from your opinion. Oh well. Let me try and address your questions (notice I am not dancing around it here)
98NCCalum Wrote:This is another way we completely disagree. What makes where a kid lives BELONG to that district. That's insane. You say that "High school athletics is about taking the kids IN YOUR DISTRICT, whose parents live in the district, and competing against other district players." Show me where it says that.First, GOOD LORD SON, get off the high horse. I do say high school athletics is about taking kids IN YOUR DISTRICT, whose parents live in the district, and competing against other district players. Where does it say that? I just said that. What else are you looking for. I never ONCE said this is everyone opinion on the matter. It is MY OPINION! That is what I stated from the get go. Unfortunately, Moses did not bring that quote down from the Mountain! Get over yourself. What does the KHSAA state about my opinions? Well, of course KHSAA says nothing about what defines a school district. However, in their Transfer bylaws, it clearly states that for a legal transfer to occur, then there must be a bona fide change of address "from one school district or defined school attendance area into another school district or defined school attendance area." If this does not occur, a student MAY NOT participate in athletics. Why is that? Could it perhaps be because high school athletics are about taking your district students, and only your district students and playing sports with them? If it wasn't about this fact, why have a by law about it?
98NCCalum Wrote:I put the challenge out to you to show me anywhere that that is said. You can't do it, so therefore it is your opinion. Prove me wrong.
Sounds like you may need some coffee.
98NCCalum Wrote:Free country, if I in NKY wanted to go to Louisville Trinity, and my parents wanted me to go there, why should I not be allowed to do that? Besides you saying that you don't agree with it, tell why.Sure, it is a free country, go whereever you want. However, this is my issue with where high school sports has gone. If you lived within the Campbell County school district, then BY GOD, play for them! If you want to play for another school, then have your parents move there! It's that simple. And if you lived in the Campbell County school distrcit, why would you NOT want to play for them? Think about the true reasons students transfer from the school district they live within to others...it's about successful programs, tradition, and all the jazz. Why would you be attracted to Louisville Trinity? Is it because of your catholic faith? If it was, then I'll be the first to pat you on the back and say good luck. If it was strictly about this, then why didn't you offer to go to St. Francis, Holy Cross? That is the point. You need to get to the root of why many private schools become so successful athletically. What attracts them to these EXPENSIVE private schools? Most of the time, it is recruitment and assistance in paying for tuition. Not every private school, of course, does this. But the athletically successful ones do! How about you prove me wrong on this!
Your arguments about recruiting students to attend your private schools is a VERY VALID one. They have to do this to ensure enrollment. This only further fuels my desire to see private schools compete separately. Unfortunately, when schools must go out and "gather up" the fold of students, too many times they gather the ones who are athletically gifted. They take the best there are to offer and entice them with tradition, success, and financial assistance. Is this fair? Of course not (from a public school's stand point). Allow them to recruit any athlete they want, just don't let them play for the same championships that the public schools (who go by the rules, and yes, we know not all public schools do this) also compete for. Recruiting a student for athletics is illegal (See Bylaw 10). Do public schools recruit? Of course, some do. KHSAA needs to better crack down on this issue. :rules:
Recruiting at private schools is a part of life. Please do not tell me that all private schools do not recruit solely on athletics. Too many times, they do. Rose Hill, Lexington Catholic (hey, they went from being a mediocre high school to winning state championships in 5 different sports since 1999, how did THAT happen?), are just a few examples of those who got caught. Do you know how blatant they must have been to have gotten caught? Jeez.
Just look at the results man! Lexington Catholic from 2003-2005 graduating classes, had 66 college athletes! How is that possible? Think about it dude.:yikes: How many public schools can boast that? I would bet NOT A ONE.
Private schools must recruit. This puts them in a gray area. How can you tell if they were recruited because they were just a kid who could pay tuition, or because they could help a sports team? You really cannot. That is the problem here. There is not a level playing ground here. Allow them to recruit anyone they want, but make them separate. I know you'll say, "Public schools recruit too!". Well, duh. But the KHSAA should crackdown on those institutions as well! Many out there think separating the public/private would be bad. Maybe, but for me, it is all about fairness in competition. What is bad about that?
98NCCalum Wrote:I'm sure you all will dance around these questions and answer me with an answer to a different question, but I can't wait to see what they are.Look away. :Wave:
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3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Doc Holliday - 12-04-2005, 02:15 AM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by blackcat - 12-04-2005, 02:51 AM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by tomcatnation - 12-04-2005, 03:05 AM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Doc Holliday - 12-04-2005, 03:25 AM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Tomcat68 - 12-04-2005, 03:29 AM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Doc Holliday - 12-04-2005, 03:59 AM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by 98 - 12-04-2005, 04:03 AM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by TheRevelation - 12-04-2005, 11:44 AM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by JUDGE140 - 12-04-2005, 12:23 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by blackcatfan_48 - 12-04-2005, 04:46 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Midee1 - 12-04-2005, 09:09 PM
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3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by KentuckyHillBilly5321 - 12-04-2005, 11:33 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Doc Holliday - 12-04-2005, 11:56 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by lpd826 - 12-05-2005, 12:30 AM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Tomcat68 - 12-05-2005, 02:34 AM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Doc Holliday - 12-05-2005, 03:01 AM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Doc Holliday - 12-05-2005, 03:05 AM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Tomcat68 - 12-05-2005, 03:11 AM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Doc Holliday - 12-05-2005, 03:29 AM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Tomcat68 - 12-05-2005, 03:31 AM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Doc Holliday - 12-05-2005, 03:34 AM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Tomcat68 - 12-05-2005, 03:36 AM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by 98 - 12-05-2005, 10:08 AM
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3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by 98 - 12-05-2005, 04:51 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by BelfryPride - 12-05-2005, 06:37 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by jayblackcat2006 - 12-05-2005, 06:46 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Doc Holliday - 12-05-2005, 07:30 PM
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3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by RHS 08 - 12-06-2005, 03:45 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by JUDGE140 - 12-07-2005, 12:07 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Tomcat68 - 12-07-2005, 01:52 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by 98 - 12-07-2005, 02:01 PM
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3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Sponge Bob - 12-07-2005, 04:38 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Sponge Bob - 12-07-2005, 04:44 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by 98 - 12-07-2005, 05:20 PM
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3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Tomcat68 - 12-07-2005, 07:42 PM
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3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Sponge Bob - 12-08-2005, 10:52 AM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by 98 - 12-08-2005, 11:25 AM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Sponge Bob - 12-08-2005, 12:29 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by shafter9 - 12-08-2005, 03:17 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by 98 - 12-08-2005, 03:31 PM
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3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by sf_football - 12-14-2005, 11:14 PM
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3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Doc Holliday - 12-15-2005, 02:34 AM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by JUDGE140 - 12-15-2005, 07:02 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Midee1 - 12-15-2005, 08:40 PM
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3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Tomcat68 - 12-18-2005, 03:36 AM
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