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12-07-2005, 02:33 PM
By either tonight or tomorrow night I'll have a somewhat extensive argument into the debate. The way it's looking as I'm doing it, it looks very informative.
Yes, those kinds of things do have great bearing. But, there are other schools who also have amazing coaching, insane community support, and feeder programs but don't have the same outrageous results for decades. It's not like there are only a handful of teams in the state with the same systems in place with great community support and coaching.
But no, a consistently good or great team is just that. A very good or great program. But a team for 10 years or decades on end with state championship teams year in and year out without EVER dropping off or having a down year brings suspicion in some people's eyes.
Another huge issue that I didn't mention is population of areas. In some larger areas, you have multiple schools to choose from. If you were a good players and wanted a ring, would you go to a good/mediocre team in the area, or the team with 7 championships in the last 10 years? That's not recruiting, but the will of student, but in the end has the same outcome. One program is losing a player to another program based on what that program can offer them. These situations need to be looked at. If a student is in one school system, and then decides to change systems, although it is of course their legal right to change schools as long as they do the correct paper work and such and pay any out of district fees that may be implied by the school system, more power to them, but they shouldn't be able to play in any KHSAA sanctioned sports if the sport(s) they are wanting to participate in were available at the school system they are coming from. That in my mind would be the easiest way to deal with any public schools who may try to recruit players or players who are wanting to go to "better" public schools. They say school is for education, not sports. That is absolutely true. If a student wants to transfer because he wants a better education, that's fine, but he should have to give up those extracurricular activities, atleast for a period of time. That is for public to public transfer.
As for any public to private transfer, it would be nice if the situation could be handled similarly, but it can't for obvious reasons. That is why there needs to be some sort of stiffer regulation on the situations, but a split is not needed. It would hurt both in the long run, but something does need to be done somewhere at some level.
Yes, those kinds of things do have great bearing. But, there are other schools who also have amazing coaching, insane community support, and feeder programs but don't have the same outrageous results for decades. It's not like there are only a handful of teams in the state with the same systems in place with great community support and coaching.
But no, a consistently good or great team is just that. A very good or great program. But a team for 10 years or decades on end with state championship teams year in and year out without EVER dropping off or having a down year brings suspicion in some people's eyes.
Another huge issue that I didn't mention is population of areas. In some larger areas, you have multiple schools to choose from. If you were a good players and wanted a ring, would you go to a good/mediocre team in the area, or the team with 7 championships in the last 10 years? That's not recruiting, but the will of student, but in the end has the same outcome. One program is losing a player to another program based on what that program can offer them. These situations need to be looked at. If a student is in one school system, and then decides to change systems, although it is of course their legal right to change schools as long as they do the correct paper work and such and pay any out of district fees that may be implied by the school system, more power to them, but they shouldn't be able to play in any KHSAA sanctioned sports if the sport(s) they are wanting to participate in were available at the school system they are coming from. That in my mind would be the easiest way to deal with any public schools who may try to recruit players or players who are wanting to go to "better" public schools. They say school is for education, not sports. That is absolutely true. If a student wants to transfer because he wants a better education, that's fine, but he should have to give up those extracurricular activities, atleast for a period of time. That is for public to public transfer.
As for any public to private transfer, it would be nice if the situation could be handled similarly, but it can't for obvious reasons. That is why there needs to be some sort of stiffer regulation on the situations, but a split is not needed. It would hurt both in the long run, but something does need to be done somewhere at some level.
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3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Doc Holliday - 12-04-2005, 02:15 AM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by blackcat - 12-04-2005, 02:51 AM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by tomcatnation - 12-04-2005, 03:05 AM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Doc Holliday - 12-04-2005, 03:25 AM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Tomcat68 - 12-04-2005, 03:29 AM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Doc Holliday - 12-04-2005, 03:59 AM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by 98 - 12-04-2005, 04:03 AM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by TheRevelation - 12-04-2005, 11:44 AM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by JUDGE140 - 12-04-2005, 12:23 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by blackcatfan_48 - 12-04-2005, 04:46 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Midee1 - 12-04-2005, 09:09 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by cookie_munster - 12-04-2005, 10:40 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by 98 - 12-04-2005, 10:42 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by MR.INCREDIBLE - 12-04-2005, 11:27 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by KentuckyHillBilly5321 - 12-04-2005, 11:33 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Doc Holliday - 12-04-2005, 11:56 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by lpd826 - 12-05-2005, 12:30 AM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Tomcat68 - 12-05-2005, 02:34 AM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Doc Holliday - 12-05-2005, 03:01 AM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Doc Holliday - 12-05-2005, 03:05 AM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Tomcat68 - 12-05-2005, 03:11 AM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Doc Holliday - 12-05-2005, 03:29 AM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Tomcat68 - 12-05-2005, 03:31 AM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Doc Holliday - 12-05-2005, 03:34 AM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Tomcat68 - 12-05-2005, 03:36 AM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by 98 - 12-05-2005, 10:08 AM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by 98 - 12-05-2005, 10:08 AM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by 98 - 12-05-2005, 10:10 AM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by 98 - 12-05-2005, 10:12 AM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Tomcat68 - 12-05-2005, 03:00 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Crossbones - 12-05-2005, 03:54 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by orisonspi - 12-05-2005, 04:11 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by 98 - 12-05-2005, 04:51 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by BelfryPride - 12-05-2005, 06:37 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by jayblackcat2006 - 12-05-2005, 06:46 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Doc Holliday - 12-05-2005, 07:30 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by crazytaxidriver - 12-05-2005, 08:26 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by shafter9 - 12-05-2005, 08:31 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by orisonspi - 12-06-2005, 12:05 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by orisonspi - 12-06-2005, 12:06 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by RHS 08 - 12-06-2005, 03:45 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by JUDGE140 - 12-07-2005, 12:07 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Tomcat68 - 12-07-2005, 01:52 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by 98 - 12-07-2005, 02:01 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Tomcat68 - 12-07-2005, 02:33 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Sponge Bob - 12-07-2005, 04:38 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Sponge Bob - 12-07-2005, 04:44 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by 98 - 12-07-2005, 05:20 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by 98 - 12-07-2005, 05:26 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by 98 - 12-07-2005, 05:29 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by BelfryJustice - 12-07-2005, 06:43 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Tomcat68 - 12-07-2005, 07:42 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Tomcat68 - 12-07-2005, 07:51 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Tomcat68 - 12-07-2005, 07:59 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Tomcat68 - 12-07-2005, 08:03 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by hebron_cougar - 12-08-2005, 12:24 AM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Sponge Bob - 12-08-2005, 10:52 AM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by 98 - 12-08-2005, 11:25 AM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Sponge Bob - 12-08-2005, 12:29 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by shafter9 - 12-08-2005, 03:17 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by 98 - 12-08-2005, 03:31 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by DNTKNME - 12-08-2005, 09:14 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by 98 - 12-08-2005, 09:34 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by sf_football - 12-09-2005, 10:18 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Midee1 - 12-14-2005, 05:37 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Midee1 - 12-14-2005, 05:55 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Midee1 - 12-14-2005, 06:08 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Midee1 - 12-14-2005, 06:17 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Midee1 - 12-14-2005, 06:21 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by 98 - 12-14-2005, 10:36 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by sf_football - 12-14-2005, 11:14 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by 98 - 12-15-2005, 01:55 AM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Doc Holliday - 12-15-2005, 02:34 AM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by JUDGE140 - 12-15-2005, 07:02 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Midee1 - 12-15-2005, 08:40 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Midee1 - 12-15-2005, 08:46 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Doc Holliday - 12-15-2005, 09:43 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Carver08 - 12-17-2005, 09:40 PM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Tough Turf - 12-18-2005, 02:09 AM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by Tomcat68 - 12-18-2005, 03:36 AM
3 of Our 4 State Champs Are PRIVATE schools. - by JUDGE140 - 12-19-2005, 11:32 AM
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