[Superman20]

You are wrong on pretty much all counts, but you are entitled to your opinion. The talent level at Johnson Central did not drop off the cliff when Musick left. The team did not go from 10-0 in Musick's last season to a 2-8 team that lost to a mediocre Paintsville team in one year because of a drop off in talent. Matney would have taken the same talent and beaten Paintsville like a drum. His first team at Johnson Central beat the Tigers 48-6, after losing 20-13 the previous year.

The talent has always been at Johnson Central to have dominated the series. Until Steve Trimble hired Musick, who by the way went winless in his first season, the administration did not hang onto any coach long enough to develop a decent program. Musick went 8-2 against Paintsville and Matney, well Matney's teams outscored Paintsville 258-41 in five games and that collective score does not reflect how dominant JC was in those games.

Under Humphrey and Ross, JC's roster size dropped sharply and some of their best players sat out or transferred. There was no drop off in player talent, just in coaching talent.

I really hope that Paintsville's program improves to the point where it is competitive on a state level again. In fact, I hope the Tigers win a state title but I do not want to see the Apple Bowl revived. Paintsville will not and cannot compete with Johnson Central as long as they employ an above average coach. The numbers difference is just too great.

I watched that talent that your talking about a lot from the time they were in elementary school on through high school. The 01 team ( i had to look it up) wasn't that talented at JC. They lost Casey Music, Scott Salyer, jeremy murray, jeremy perry, tj music, and a few other players that were studs on the 00 team. You must have a son in that age group or was on that team to say that they would have beat Paintsville like a drum that season. I watched both teams on more then one occasion that season, and it wouldnt have happened. JC did have talent, but the athleticism wasn't their that matney has had. Name one back from the 01 through the 03 seasons that was near as good as Ron Blume, JJ Jude, and Shawn Grim. Closest one was Chad Yates, and he was good, but not in the ball park of those 3 I mentioned. Name a linebacker that was better in 01-03 then Blake Johnson or Michael Tackett. That Paintsville team in 01 took a state runner up team in pburg and played them really tough, and your saying they would have beat them like a drum? so im not wrong, i watched kids on both teams in those years, had cousins that played in both programs. The 01 team would have beat JC, but other then that team, i will agree that Matney would have beat PHS like a drum. The only reason why central lost in the 20-13 game is because Scotty Mccoy screwed up and kicked like a 10 yard punt, if not for that JC would have won that game. So I agree that other then one season after Musick, Matney would have beat phs and I agree that the coaching wasn't near as good and their was some good talent, but Matney has coached a lot better talent. :Thumbs: