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Shelby Valley 105 - Logan (WV) 91 (Fast Lane Classic)
#31
Congrats SV
#32
PC_You_Know Wrote:I would agree, if this guy can give up 37 to Elisha, who is 3 inches smaller than him, and lose by 16, then why in the world is Elisha not in the top 100 if this guy is in the top 80.



Well I'll put it to you like this.. I was at the tourney and the officials could have been the 6th man for SV. They got all the calls and go look it up and see how many FT justice shot. I bet 20+ of his points came from FT's. The Game was poorly called and Cotrill is 10X better than Justice and the only thing Justice can do is pass a little better. After seeing Justice play a 2nd time, I will go on to say he can't even compete at a NAIA school. (I wasn't impressed at all) :Thumbs:
#33
Wildcats11 Wrote:Well I'll put it to you like this.. I was at the tourney and the officials could have been the 6th man for SV. They got all the calls and go look it up and see how many FT justice shot. I bet 20+ of his points came from FT's. The Game was poorly called and Cotrill is 10X better than Justice and the only thing Justice can do is pass a little better. After seeing Justice play a 2nd time, I will go on to say he can't even compete at a NAIA school. (I wasn't impressed at all) :Thumbs:
Did u watch the game ? Cotrill shot 20+ freethows EJ prbly 12.
#34
Wildcats11 Wrote:Well I'll put it to you like this.. I was at the tourney and the officials could have been the 6th man for SV. They got all the calls and go look it up and see how many FT justice shot. I bet 20+ of his points came from FT's. The Game was poorly called and Cotrill is 10X better than Justice and the only thing Justice can do is pass a little better. After seeing Justice play a 2nd time, I will go on to say he can't even compete at a NAIA school. (I wasn't impressed at all) :Thumbs:

Ok sorry, but your a IDIOT. Anybody that has 37 points, 15+ assists and 2 dunks is great and you know it. Sure Cotrill had 43 points, BUT he shot over 20 free throws and elisha shot exactly 12. And Cotrill also threw up about 30 shots. So how wouldnt you have 43 points with 20+ free throws, and 30 shots??? tell me that buddy. And Elisha also wasnt sucking and hugging up to the ref's like Cotrill was everytime someone was shooting free throws, Elisha is the better ball player and every person that watched the game would tell you that. Cotrill done nothing but FAKE every foul, He would shoot a three and fall if anyone was blocking him out, if he went down the lane he would act like someone had tried killing him. Made me sick to be honest with you. Cotrill is a good ball player indeed. But not nearly as talented as Elisha is, Let elisha shot as many shots and Cotrill did, and lets see who has the most points??? Cotrill's 20 of his 43 points was free throws... and elisha only had 12 free throws, plus Cotrill shot the ball alot more than elisha and still only had 6 more points. So who sounds like the better ball player here? :Clap:
#35
Cotrill has signed with west virginia,#8 in the country.
#36
alleycat53 Wrote:Did u watch the game ? Cotrill shot 20+ freethows EJ prbly 12.



Yes, I watched every second of it.. Cotrill may have shot 15 FT at the most but it was because Justice was to small to guard him and the size factor showed when Cotrill blocked Justice toward the end of the game. (One of the worse blocks I've seen) Confusedhh:
#37
3Altor5 Wrote:Ok sorry, but your a IDIOT. Anybody that has 37 points, 15+ assists and 2 dunks is great and you know it. Sure Cotrill had 43 points, BUT he shot over 20 free throws and elisha shot exactly 12. And Cotrill also threw up about 30 shots. So how wouldnt you have 43 points with 20+ free throws, and 30 shots??? tell me that buddy. And Elisha also wasnt sucking and hugging up to the ref's like Cotrill was everytime someone was shooting free throws, Elisha is the better ball player and every person that watched the game would tell you that. Cotrill done nothing but FAKE every foul, He would shoot a three and fall if anyone was blocking him out, if he went down the lane he would act like someone had tried killing him. Made me sick to be honest with you. Cotrill is a good ball player indeed. But not nearly as talented as Elisha is, Let elisha shot as many shots and Cotrill did, and lets see who has the most points??? Cotrill's 20 of his 43 points was free throws... and elisha only had 12 free throws, plus Cotrill shot the ball alot more than elisha and still only had 6 more points. So who sounds like the better ball player here? :Clap:



Breaking news CNN just reported: Elisha Justice is human, he got shut down anytime Cotrill was on him. When a good player comes around like Justice, everyone in EKY hypes them to be superhuman. Ohh yeah, How did you like the block Cotrill had on Justice???:Clap:
#38
catwoman Wrote:Cotrill has signed with west virginia,#8 in the country.

Lets see that site catwoman. Or is that just what you rate him? The site i looked at he was 12th POINT GUARD in the nation, not 8th of all positions. Could you give me the info to that site please.
#39
3Altor5 Wrote:Ok sorry, but your a IDIOT. Anybody that has 37 points, 15+ assists and 2 dunks is great and you know it. Sure Cotrill had 43 points, BUT he shot over 20 free throws and elisha shot exactly 12. And Cotrill also threw up about 30 shots. So how wouldnt you have 43 points with 20+ free throws, and 30 shots??? tell me that buddy. And Elisha also wasnt sucking and hugging up to the ref's like Cotrill was everytime someone was shooting free throws, Elisha is the better ball player and every person that watched the game would tell you that. Cotrill done nothing but FAKE every foul, He would shoot a three and fall if anyone was blocking him out, if he went down the lane he would act like someone had tried killing him. Made me sick to be honest with you. Cotrill is a good ball player indeed. But not nearly as talented as Elisha is, Let elisha shot as many shots and Cotrill did, and lets see who has the most points??? Cotrill's 20 of his 43 points was free throws... and elisha only had 12 free throws, plus Cotrill shot the ball alot more than elisha and still only had 6 more points. So who sounds like the better ball player here? :Clap:




Who is a scholarship player and who is a walk-on??? End of discussion. Case closed. End of arguement. :lmao:
#40
Wildcats11 Wrote:Breaking news CNN just reported: Elisha Justice is human, he got shut down anytime Cotrill was on him. When a good player comes around like Justice, everyone in EKY hypes them to be superhuman. Ohh yeah, How did you like the block Cotrill had on Justice???:Clap:

Oo i see, Wait a second, Cotrill was guarding him at the first of the game 1x1 and Elisha broke his ankles BAD, what happend there bub? ill tell you what happend, they dropped to the 2-3 zone after that, and he never guarded elisha without help again. And about that block, doesnt everyone get blocked lol? whats so amazing about that? and + cotrill being 4 inches taller than elisha, Whats so great about that? :please:
#41
3Altor5 Wrote:Lets see that site catwoman. Or is that just what you rate him? The site i looked at he was 12th POINT GUARD in the nation, not 8th of all positions. Could you give me the info to that site please.



Pay attention to the rankings and you would know she was talking about WVU being ranked 8th in the nation. :thanks:
#42
Wildcats11 Wrote:Pay attention to the rankings and you would know she was talking about WVU being ranked 8th in the nation. :thanks:

Oo sorry about that Catwoman, i thought you was refering that Cotrill was #8 in the nation. I knew WVU was but i thought you was saying cotrill was. Sorry:Thumbs:
#43
3Altor5 Wrote:Oo i see, Wait a second, Cotrill was guarding him at the first of the game 1x1 and Elisha broke his ankles BAD, what happend there bub? ill tell you what happend, they dropped to the 2-3 zone after that, and he never guarded elisha without help again. And about that block, doesnt everyone get blocked lol? whats so amazing about that? and + cotrill being 4 inches taller than elisha, Whats so great about that? :please:



Cotrill= Scholarship player and Justice = walk-on. Cotrill owned Justice the whole game and Cotrill is ranked top 100 that is based on potential and you still say Justice is better. WOW!! :please:
#44
First of all you are an idiot. Justice is D 1. Heck even the Logan fans says he his D 1. Get off of your jealously issue. Here is the deal and I have friends on both fan bases. If you are a college coach in need of a scorer go with Cotrill. If you are looking for a player that has the package go with Justice. Believe me on the WV message board Logan fans fell in Love watching Justice. And some Valley fans enjoyed watching Cotrill and Williamson.
#45
joethegreek Wrote:First of all you are an idiot. Justice is D 1. Heck even the Logan fans says he his D 1. Get off of your jealously issue. Here is the deal and I have friends on both fan bases. If you are a college coach in need of a scorer go with Cotrill. If you are looking for a player that has the package go with Justice. Believe me on the WV message board Logan fans fell in Love watching Justice. And some Valley fans enjoyed watching Cotrill and Williamson.



I agree both are good players but you have to be the most bias person I've met if you can honestly say Justice is better. If Justice is D1 and "Has the package" why is he a walk-on and not a scholarship player?? Why isn't he ranked nationally?? I'm not trying to be jerk, I'm just curious.
#46
Dude I went to Logan . I am originally from Logan. I set with a fmr Logan coach whom played at WVU and is best friends with Jerry West. He told me he is D 1. Elisha can defend, he plays hard , handles the ball, and distributes the ball. I broadcast NAIA games believe me he can play D1 somewhere.
#47
Wildcats11 Wrote:I agree both are good players but you have to be the most bias person I've met if you can honestly say Justice is better. If Justice is D1 and "Has the package" why is he a walk-on and not a scholarship player?? Why isn't he ranked nationally?? I'm not trying to be jerk, I'm just curious.

Ok who says Justice wont get a scholarship after his first year there? You never know. Your just 1 of the 100 people on here jealous of Elisha and its pathetic. I cant believe you said he didnt impress you lol.#4 player in the state and 42 Point guard in the nation. Hilarious :ChairHit:
#48
Wildcats11 says he couldn't compete at NAIA level. That statement kills his credibility
#49
OK, this has turned into a Justice bashing and undeserving bashing at that. EJ is a D-1 player and proved that to everyone who "watched" the game. Cotrill is also a D-1 player and proved that also. I thought Elisha out played Cotrill in every aspect except outside shooting.
#50
I agree. What is so bad it is people from Kentucky bashing there own. I tell you when I am not broadcasting I will try to watch alot of Valley and Logan
#51
Logan impressed me with their ability to shoot the 3. They have more than one shooter also. To make the record clear, I was born in Logan General Hospital.
#52
Lol and you survived.
#53
Yeah, but that was a long time ago. I want to wish luck to both SV and Logan on their upcoming seasons.
#54
joethegreek Wrote:Dude I went to Logan . I am originally from Logan. I set with a fmr Logan coach whom played at WVU and is best friends with Jerry West. He told me he is D 1. Elisha can defend, he plays hard , handles the ball, and distributes the ball. I broadcast NAIA games believe me he can play D1 somewhere.



That paragraph is made up of lies but whatever. I thought when a D1 player that "has the package" comes around that they get a scholarship or at least be ranked nationally 100. Elisha can defend kids 5 foot nothing and plays in the 15th region. Let's not be so delustional and bias on here and see things with realistic thinking. :thanks: ( I'm not posting with a bunch of bias valley fans, So with that being said, Cotrill is like a ferrari and Justice is like a honda... You do the math!! Case closed!!! :thanks:
#55
Hey Mildcat11. You know what Justice would have to say about the game? My Wildcats beat the Logan Wildcats. All he cares about is winning. It is ignorant fans like you that take away the joy of watching good players and teams like Logan and SV. Who cares who is better. These teams don't play. It was a good exhibition and that was it. Don't worry about bashing the 15th region. Kentucky basketball is about 10 layers deeper than anything WVA has. WVA has very few cities with any population at all. Kentucky is by no means a huge state, but the number of really good high school teams outnumbers WVA at least 10-1.
#56
bucslover68 Wrote:Hey Mildcat11. You know what Justice would have to say about the game? My Wildcats beat the Logan Wildcats. All he cares about is winning. It is ignorant fans like you that take away the joy of watching good players and teams like Logan and SV. Who cares who is better. These teams don't play. It was a good exhibition and that was it.



And you know what I would say to Justice?? Get better and earn a scholarship. :biggrin:
#57
Wildcats11 Wrote:That paragraph is made up of lies but whatever. I thought when a D1 player that "has the package" comes around that they get a scholarship or at least be ranked nationally 100. Elisha can defend kids 5 foot nothing and plays in the 15th region. Let's not be so delustional and bias on here and see things with realistic thinking. :thanks: ( I'm not posting with a bunch of bias valley fans, So with that being said, Cotrill is like a ferrari and Justice is like a honda... You do the math!! Case closed!!! :thanks:

You must have problems adding:thatsfunn I'm not sure I trust you driving a car, so don't be comparing them.
#58
Wildcats11 Wrote:And you know what I would say to Justice?? Get better and earn a scholarship. :biggrin:

It's hard to believe they allow this personal downing of high school kids. You need to get a life and a big dose of reality.
#59
Both Cottrill and Justice are outstanding players. Justice has always flown a little under the radar, so it's interesting to see him play against players with higher rankings (Rice Jr., Harrow, Landesberg, Cottrill, and numerous AAU players). I thought it was telling that Justice took the first possession and went around Cottrill to the basket for an AND 1. It has become clear over the years that Justice doesn't back down from anyone. That being said, Cottrill is an extremely talented player also. He appears to be able to get a quality shot about any time he chooses. His FT stroke is pure and he has good range. The only true negative I saw from Cottrill was his attitude (i.e. his constant talking with the refs). All in all it was one of the most enjoyable high school scrimmages I've seen.
#60
There you go Wildcats11. I love it. It always makes me laugh when the refs get blamed for everything. I watched the game on tv. They must of shown a different game than the one you watched. I didn't see things the way you saw it.

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