[bucslover68]

After all the stuff that is deleted on here, why would this hogwash be allowed to stay? Whether or not it is true makes no difference.

[EKUAlum05]

Because I didn't see it until now...

[EKUAlum05]

Just a reminder to everyone... if at any point you see a post that you feel violates the rues of the boards please report it to a mod. We are working on a new "Report a Post" button, but until that happens this will make sure the watchful eye can be in more places.

[Hatz]

Just a reminder to everyone... if at any point you see a post that you feel violates the rues of the boards please report it to a mod. We are working on a new "Report a Post" button, but until that happens this will make sure the watchful eye can be in more places.

Alan Parsons Project is really EKUAlum05?

I am the eye in the sky
Looking at you
I can read your mind
I am the maker of rules
Dealing with fools
I can cheat you blind
And I don't need to see any more
To know that
I can read your mind, I can read your mind

:biggrin:


BTW, you have to be older to remember that song. :eyeroll:

[EKUAlum05]

Alan Parsons Project is really EKUAlum05?

I am the eye in the sky
Looking at you
I can read your mind
I am the maker of rules
Dealing with fools
I can cheat you blind
And I don't need to see any more
To know that
I can read your mind, I can read your mind

:biggrin:


BTW, you have to be older to remember that song. :eyeroll:

Funny you say that actually

HAHA I am digressing off topic for a second, but I am not old enough to technically "remember that song", but ironically I do know the song. My girlfriend's mother and father overheard it on ther radio as we were going to New Orleans a few months back. Apparently, when they did a helicopter tour on their honeymoon that was the song that the pilot played.

Just an interesting aside.

[OutlawJoseyWales]

I would highly disagree on the '86 team. I still feel Danville was the best squad that year, particularly if you played on a better field. :Thumbs:

You can disagree all you want.....but to my recollection...both teams played on that field......and we can agree to disagree...but the best team won.

Danville beat Highlands the week before and the whole state decided that was "the championship game"....

Sorry to have burst that bubble...

[Burner]

Toughest Loss

2000 Regional Championship- Sheldon Clark 6 - Rockcastle 7

[bucslover68]

Yep, that field argument is weak. Sure, some teams adjust to certain fields better than others, but in the end, both teams line up and play. If one team is truly better than the other, then field conditions alone should not affect them too much.

[EKUAlum05]

I will say this. Regardless of what happened in that game and who was better, Danville sure as heck exacted their revenge in the next meeting between the schools when they played in the Pike County Bowl. I have never seen a Belfry team ever be so outclassed by an opponent as that game, and that includes the first year Belfry played a then Nationally Ranked Ironton, OH team.

[MayfieldCardinal]

The last loss has always been the toughest loss for me

[stonesteven]

That is true mayfield

[OutlawJoseyWales]

The difference was Mercer had more students than Russell and were competing in the same class. PT and Owensboro had been recently realigned based on their enrollment and were legitimately in AAA because of school size. :Thumbs:

Not to be-labor the point.....but...while the KHSAA may have sanctioned both schools to legitimately participate at the 3A level.... neither PT nor Owensboro were "legitimate 3A teams" in 85' and 86'. Those kids had continually competed at a higher level of play....thus better competition....more exposure...etc, etc.

Both schools took advantage of the enrollment number and barely...and I mean barely...qualified for the realignment...in fact...if I'm not mistaken...either one or both briefly moved back up to 4a for a period of time.

Not taking anything away from their victories....but...that wasn't the op's topic.....

The topic was "toughest losses".....and IMO, the vast majority of Belfry fans who were around at that time...I believe will agree with me...

[OutlawJoseyWales]

I will say this. Regardless of what happened in that game and who was better, Danville sure as heck exacted their revenge in the next meeting between the schools when they played in the Pike County Bowl. I have never seen a Belfry team ever be so outclassed by an opponent as that game, and that includes the first year Belfry played a then Nationally Ranked Ironton, OH team.

You're correct. Danville ran roughshod over that Belfry squad...

[oneijoe]

Prestonsburg losing to Mayfield 1993 state finals after ending Danville's 62 game streak. Winning touchdown called back. Winning field goal missed by inches.:flush:

I've never seen so many things go against any team in so short a time (last 5 mins.) in such an important game. Prestonsburg was up 12-0:

1. Safety (why only one back, anyway?) bites on a play-fake and Cards hit a >50 yd. pass down the middle (looked just like the long pass to Varney in P-burg/Belfry game this year, except it was the Card's TE that made the catch).

2. Prestonsburg with bad snap attempting to punt.

3. After a return to the Mayfield 6 on a long return, and a short run on first down, an inside TD run is nullified on a holding call. And holding was a 15 yd. penalty in those days.

4. FG attempt from ~38 yds missed inches to the left. The kick would have been GOOD on high school (wider) goalposts.


I saw the supposed "hold"...it was a dropping tackle that hit a blitzing OLB, knocking him backward in the backfield. This had happened every time P-burg had run the inside trap - but this was the FIRST time it was flagged. If that was a hold, a trap play should never be run by anyone - it becomes a non-workable play if that block is illegal.

But still, without the 3 big P-burg errors (only 1 safety back, the safety stepping up on the play-fake, and not executing the punt), the Blackcats would have won.

[Hatz]

You can disagree all you want.....but to my recollection...both teams played on that field......and we can agree to disagree...but the best team won.

Danville beat Highlands the week before and the whole state decided that was "the championship game"....

Sorry to have burst that bubble...

You didn't "burst it for me". :biggrin:

We'll have to agree to disagree.

[Hatz]

Yep, that field argument is weak. Sure, some teams adjust to certain fields better than others, but in the end, both teams line up and play. If one team is truly better than the other, then field conditions alone should not affect them too much.

Hard to see that field effecting the full house wishbone versus the one back run-and-shoot Danville ran that year.

I won't get into this anymore in the public forum but there were reasons the field conditions were a factor IMO. :Thumbs:

[Hatz]

Not to be-labor the point.....but...while the KHSAA may have sanctioned both schools to legitimately participate at the 3A level.... neither PT nor Owensboro were "legitimate 3A teams" in 85' and 86'. Those kids had continually competed at a higher level of play....thus better competition....more exposure...etc, etc.

Both schools took advantage of the enrollment number and barely...and I mean barely...qualified for the realignment...in fact...if I'm not mistaken...either one or both briefly moved back up to 4a for a period of time.

Not taking anything away from their victories....but...that wasn't the op's topic.....

The topic was "toughest losses".....and IMO, the vast majority of Belfry fans who were around at that time...I believe will agree with me...

If you can give excuses for a team's enrollment, I can give them for a field. :biggrin:

BTW, speaking of enrollment, Danville was a Class A sized school playing in Class AAA that year.

[Hatz]

I've never seen so many things go against any team in so short a time (last 5 mins.) in such an important game. Prestonsburg was up 12-0 :

1. Safety (why only one back, anyway?) bites on a play-fake and Cards hit a >50 yd. pass down the middle.

2. Prestonsburg with bad snap attempting to punt.

3. After a return to the Mayfield 6 on a long return, and a short run on first down, an inside TD run is nullified on a holding call.

4. FG attempt from 40 yds missed inches to the left. The kick would have been GOOD on high school (wider) goalposts.


I saw the supposed "hold"...it was a dropping tackle that hit a blitzing OLB, knocking him backward in the backfield. This had happened every time P-burg had run the inside trap - but this was the FIRST time it was flagged.

But still, without the 3 big P-burg errors (only 1 safety back, the safety stepping up on the play-fake, and not executing the punt), the Blackcats would have won.

I think that Blackcat Team should have won it all because of the monumental win they had vs. Danville the week before. That has to going from an all-time high to an all-time low without a doubt.

[EKUAlum05]

I think that Blackcat Team should have won it all because of the monumental win they had vs. Danville the week before. That has to going from an all-time high to an all-time low without a doubt.

That Pburg team is probably one of the most under-valued teams to ever come out of EKY. The fact they lost that title game basically eliminates them from people's consideration when discussing the best to ever come out of the mountains,, but that was one gritty team. They were sound defensively, they were quick, and above all else they played with a chip on their shoulder.

[OutlawJoseyWales]

If you can give excuses for a team's enrollment, I can give them for a field. :biggrin:

BTW, speaking of enrollment, Danville was a Class A sized school playing in Class AAA that year.

I'm not giving excuses.....I just stated that both those losses..under the circumstances were extremely tough for Belfry fans.....

[OutlawJoseyWales]

Hard to see that field effecting the full house wishbone versus the one back run-and-shoot Danville ran that year.

I won't get into this anymore in the public forum but there were reasons the field conditions were a factor IMO. :Thumbs:

Hopefully...this isn't the old "flooded the field" accusation.....:Thumbs: