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Shelby Valley @ Prestonsburg 10/23 - Broadcast on 103.1 WPKE www.wpke.com
#31
alfus21 Wrote:I was stating that Shelby Valley does in my opinion and probably many others having a better rushing attack than Sheldon Clark. That is all.

Really hard to tell what kind of rushing attack Valley really has due to their weak schedule. However, Sheldon Clark has proven themselves the entire year, predominately running the ball.
#32
blackcat Wrote:Really hard to tell what kind of rushing attack Valley really has due to their weak schedule. However, Sheldon Clark has proven themselves the entire year, predominately running the ball.

Unbelievable that a simple opinion can stir up a controversy like this one.

To restate again, I am not comparing anything with Shelby Valley and Prestonsburg. Simple as that. So stop saying what if Prestonsburg played Shelby Valley's schedule.

I am not saying saying Shelby Valley has played a hard schedule, but they did run for 216 against Lawrence County, and 224 against Clintwood VA.

I don't know how Belfry did against Pike Central but Shelby Valley ran for 415 against them. They have a solid rushing attack. That is all I am saying, and they have even proved that in their two losses. If you haven't seen it, you have no room to talk. They can run the ball, and they can do it well.
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#33
alfus21 Wrote:Unbelievable that a simple opinion can stir up a controversy like this one.

To restate again, I am not comparing anything with Shelby Valley and Prestonsburg. Simple as that. So stop saying what if Prestonsburg played Shelby Valley's schedule.

I am not saying saying Shelby Valley has played a hard schedule, but they did run for 216 against Lawrence County, and 224 against Clintwood VA.

I don't know how Belfry did against Pike Central but Shelby Valley ran for 415 against them. They have a solid rushing attack. That is all I am saying, and they have even proved that in their two losses. If you haven't seen it, you have no room to talk. They can run the ball, and they can do it well.
credit given that they can run the ball but 216 and 224 is nothing compared to the 600+ that they ran against Bath. I think what has been stated is they can run the ball well against week teams but have a little trouble against stronger teams.. Time will tell
#34
UofL Fan Wrote:credit given that they can run the ball but 216 and 224 is nothing compared to the 600+ that they ran against Bath. I think what has been stated is they can run the ball well against week teams but have a little trouble against stronger teams.. Time will tell

216 and 224 are good team rushing numbers. Shelby Valley may have lost those games, but saying those numbers are "nothing" is a figment of the imagination. 600+ is just unbelievable. I don't think a lot of you people understand how incredible those stats really are. 600+ rushing yards is amazing, I don't care who you're playing.

Having said all of this, Shelby Valley has a great rushing attack. Having said that, the Wildcats haven't faced a defense as fast Prestonsburg's all year long. Yes, Prestonsburg's defense is faster than Lawrence County and Clintwood. This Blackcat defense is as fast I have ever seen it. They have the size as well. Roberts and Hughes should have some success running like I said earlier in the thread, but the Blackcats will slow them down. The Wildcats may not have over 150 yards as a team. That would be a statement too, because this Valley team can run.

With Prestonsburg's defense and Michael Burchett's decision making ability at quarterback, the Blackcats should win this game by 3-4 TD's.
#35
there is only 3 things that matter
1. Wins
2. Losses
3. Strength of Schedule

The numbers and stats a team puts up doesnt matter especially against weak teams, no one cares. Until Valley pulls a W against a decent opponent no one will care.
#36
I'm taking Valley in an upset!

SV-21
P-burg-16
#37
MiddlesboroAlumni Wrote:If I'm not mistaken, I believe PC is from Shelby Valley. Unlike you, he is a realistic fan.

Yeah, pretty sure most people on here know I'm from Valley.
#38
I think that Valley might pull the upset so im gonna go with Valley winning 17-14.
#39
UkFan23 Wrote:I think that Valley might pull the upset so im gonna go with Valley winning 17-14.

king360 Wrote:I'm taking Valley in an upset!

SV-21
P-burg-16

I wouldn't count on it.
#40
alfus21 Wrote:Unbelievable that a simple opinion can stir up a controversy like this one.

To restate again, I am not comparing anything with Shelby Valley and Prestonsburg. Simple as that. So stop saying what if Prestonsburg played Shelby Valley's schedule.

I am not saying saying Shelby Valley has played a hard schedule, but they did run for 216 against Lawrence County, and 224 against Clintwood VA.

I don't know how Belfry did against Pike Central but Shelby Valley ran for 415 against them. They have a solid rushing attack. That is all I am saying, and they have even proved that in their two losses. If you haven't seen it, you have no room to talk. They can run the ball, and they can do it well.

Read in my post where I mentioned anything of Prestonsburg's schedule. You said that Shelby Valley's rushing game is better than Sheldon Clark's, and continued to say that most posters on here would agree.

Good luck to both teams. Prestonsburg by 4 TD's.
#41
outdoorsman43 Wrote:216 and 224 are good team rushing numbers. Shelby Valley may have lost those games, but saying those numbers are "nothing" is a figment of the imagination. 600+ is just unbelievable. I don't think a lot of you people understand how incredible those stats really are. 600+ rushing yards is amazing, I don't care who you're playing.

Having said all of this, Shelby Valley has a great rushing attack. Having said that, the Wildcats haven't faced a defense as fast Prestonsburg's all year long. Yes, Prestonsburg's defense is faster than Lawrence County and Clintwood. This Blackcat defense is as fast I have ever seen it. They have the size as well. Roberts and Hughes should have some success running like I said earlier in the thread, but the Blackcats will slow them down. The Wildcats may not have over 150 yards as a team. That would be a statement too, because this Valley team can run.

With Prestonsburg's defense and Michael Burchett's decision making ability at quarterback, the Blackcats should win this game by 3-4 TD's.
If you would read my post I said those numbers were nothing compared to the 600+ they put up on Bath. I never said 216 and 224 were nothing.. Granted SV has a good rushing team but I don't see them rushing 300 yds on Pburg.. This is all I am saying.
#42
blackcat Wrote:Read in my post where I mentioned anything of Prestonsburg's schedule. You said that Shelby Valley's rushing game is better than Sheldon Clark's, and continued to say that most posters on here would agree.

Good luck to both teams. Prestonsburg by 4 TD's.

I agree with him. SV rushes better then SC.

Valley might not get 300+ yards on Pburg, but there not gonna get held lower then 100 rush yards. I believe the game will be closer then what everyone else thinks. but still see Pburg winning by about 12
#43
Barring a Blackcat turnover bonanza (like last year's game), Shelby Valley will need to rush for at least 300 yds. to keep P-burg's offense off the field enough to keep it close. If that happens, Valley could pull the upset in a low scoring game.
#44
with the way prestonsburg has played behind the leadership of many seniors such as josh craynon, michael burchett, and austin mckinney i see them winning easy. 42-10.
#45
I see this game going something like the Lawrence County game with SV hanging around in the 1st half, but P'burg pulling away in the 2nd. I do however believe that SV has one of the better run games in this area. I know they haven't played a lot of good teams, but put up pretty good yardage against the 2 good teams they have played, plus a lot of yardage against a pretty good Pike Central team. I was told that SV was the only team this season to run for over 100 yards against Clintwood.
#46
To much P-Burg in this one

P-Burg 30
Valley 14
#47
P-Burg has a great team this year. Probably the best they've had since 2001. Yes SV has a good rushing attack but i got two name for that rushing attack! Austin Mckinney and Alex Griffith! Both these young men have been absolutely outstanding this year. I see them laying the wood to the SV running backs many many times during this game!

Prestonsburg's defense is too fast and their offense is too potent for this Shelby Valley team!

Prestonsburg big.

P-Burg-42
Shelby Valley-14
#48
IBleedRed Wrote:P-Burg has a great team this year. Probably the best they've had since 2001. Yes SV has a good rushing attack but i got two name for that rushing attack! Austin Mckinney and Alex Griffith! Both these young men have been absolutely outstanding this year. I see them laying the wood to the SV running backs many many times during this game!

Prestonsburg's defense is too fast and their offense is too potent for this Shelby Valley team!

Prestonsburg big.

P-Burg-42
Shelby Valley-14
I agree, Mckinney and Griffith are two outstanding players.. I believe Mckinney is 3rd in state in tackles this season and lead the blackcat defense last year with 177 tackles and already has 101 this year according to KHSAA and Maxpreps. Griffith also has 80 tackles this year, not sure about last years stats.. Pburg to much for SV.
#49
oneijoe Wrote:The Blackcats pass and run outside. They RARELY keep it between the tackles. And...Prestonsburg is a small speed-based team, not a big power-based one.

With that said, do you really think a wet field is to P-burg's advantage ?!?

YES!!!You practice and play on a natural field,rain or shine, you will have the advantage on that field,especially it it's muddy and especially against a team whose field never has mud.Never.Besides, P-burg can apparently walk on water,so a wet field has no affect here.
#50
I was more impressed by Valley's performance in the loss to Clintwood, than any of their wins. I will go with P-burg by 14 but Valley has one of their better teams of the last ten years. I can see it as close for two quarters with P-burg pulling away in the 2nd half.
#51
Shelby Valley needs to play this weeks game before thinking about P-burg. I don't care who your playing, when you overlook a team bad things can happen. As far as the P-burg game goes, P-burg is well coached and they have a lot of talent this year, this is their year to shine. Shelby Valley will score, but they will fall 2 or 3 touchdowns short of winning this game, P-burg will go 10-0 this season.


Shelby Valley - 21

P-burg - 42
#52
To those Prestonsburg fans who think that SV's rushing numbers are skewed, ask the folks from Lawrence Co. how good their backs are. Lawrence was clearly the better team overall between the two, but SV still had over 200 yards rushing on the night... nothing to sniff at there.

I think SV runs the ball well again, but they will have to sustain some long drives to have any chance. I've seen SV's pass defense this year, and I believe Burchett will have a field day. P-Burg will score at least 35 points, and I don't think SV will be able to keep up.

P-Burg 35
SV 20
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#53
More Cowbell Wrote:To those Prestonsburg fans who think that SV's rushing numbers are skewed, ask the folks from Lawrence Co. how good their backs are. Lawrence was clearly the better team overall between the two, but SV still had over 200 yards rushing on the night... nothing to sniff at there.

I think SV runs the ball well again, but they will have to sustain some long drives to have any chance. I've seen SV's pass defense this year, and I believe Burchett will have a field day. P-Burg will score at least 35 points, and I don't think SV will be able to keep up.

P-Burg 35
SV 20
Trust me Pburg isn't overlooking SV rushing game but IMO Pburg by alot.
#54
Prestonsburg 48 Shelby Valley 14
#55
JIMLEE58 Wrote:YES!!!You practice and play on a natural field,rain or shine, you will have the advantage on that field,especially it it's muddy and especially against a team whose field never has mud.Never.Besides, P-burg can apparently walk on water,so a wet field has no affect here.
I don't know if you're insinuating Prestonsburg waters the field or what, but Prestonsburg's passing game is their bread and butter. Any fan of football knows that a muddy field benefits a rushing team opposed to a passing team. Prestonsburg had a tough time catching the ball at Sheldon Clark in the rain and they have turf just like Valley. I can only imagine the problems P-burg would have catching the ball in their stadium field should it rain on game night.

Even then, I think P-burg wins by 2 TD's.
#56
More Cowbell Wrote:To those Prestonsburg fans who think that SV's rushing numbers are skewed, ask the folks from Lawrence Co. how good their backs are. Lawrence was clearly the better team overall between the two, but SV still had over 200 yards rushing on the night... nothing to sniff at there.

I think SV runs the ball well again, but they will have to sustain some long drives to have any chance. I've seen SV's pass defense this year, and I believe Burchett will have a field day. P-Burg will score at least 35 points, and I don't think SV will be able to keep up.

P-Burg 35
SV 20


I think your right on this one. SV will hang tough for a half but they will eventually get beat by a bigger deeper team. But believe me, for the P Burg fans who think that SV wont get their yards rushing you are badly mistaken. I was at the LC-SV game and seen it up close and personal.
#57
I think its funny how only about 2 ppl think we will win..besides the few that pretty much said we would get lucky. Yes it will be hard to beat p-burg but not impossible at all. And dont count on seeing the same secondary you have been seeing for this game cause alot of changes will be made. I dont think P-burg will stop our running game, so with us keeping the clock running all game, and if we make some big plays on D with some int's i think it will be a very close game.
Note:Blefry beat Pc by 10 in a very close game and we ran it all over them(Not saying anything twards the p-burg game. But if belfry only beats them by 10 wheres our credit for beating them by 22 points??
#58
People don't give Prestonsburg's rushing game much credit at all. Because we don't go out there and throw the ball 20 or 30 times a game. Our offense is well balanced with McKinney, Jamerson and Craynon carrying the ball. I know we are much better at throwing the ball, but we've had a lot of great plays come out of our rushing game and its something that no one should overlook.
#59
Prestonsburg by 3 TD.
#60
B.J. Roberts #19 Wrote:I think its funny how only about 2 ppl think we will win..besides the few that pretty much said we would get lucky. Yes it will be hard to beat p-burg but not impossible at all. And dont count on seeing the same secondary you have been seeing for this game cause alot of changes will be made. I dont think P-burg will stop our running game, so with us keeping the clock running all game, and if we make some big plays on D with some int's i think it will be a very close game.
Note:Blefry beat Pc by 10 in a very close game and we ran it all over them(Not saying anything twards the p-burg game. But if belfry only beats them by 10 wheres our credit for beating them by 22 points??


Congrats, but that kind of logic gets you nowhere, that's like saying team C will beat team A because B beat A and C beat B. No one knows until you play, and since you're not playing Belfry, who knows what your thrashing of PC means.
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