[DevilsWin]

IT IS STILL A HALLUCINOGEN.

No its not. Its merely a stimulant, like caffeine.

LSD is a Hallucinogen. Magic Mushrooms are a Hallucinogen. Ecstasy is a Hallucinogen.

Once again,.... you should learn a word before you use it.

[DevilsWin]

Here is my thing, in another thread a wrestler died of overdosing on OC's. When has there been a case that a person overdosed on Pot? Never! Another point that I would like to make is that the leading fabric that was used until the cotton gin was invinted was Himp! It made everything from shirts and pants to the canvices that some pantings are on. There are alot of good that come from pot not only just smoking it, but the other industral impacts it could have if it was legalized.

Just for the record its, Hemp and Canvas.

[DevilsWin]

So are all the pro-pot smokers saying it should be legal to the public for smoking?? Or for medical use only.

Cause **** we can't even smoke cigarettes in public anymore.. I personally don't think it should be legalized. And I have smoked quite a bit of it.. I have a few buddies that still smoke it. And I can't stand to be around them when they are high. It alters your conscious state. And that's all we need in this freaking world is a bunch of burnouts..

I say for medical use and industrial use is the only thing that can be regulated and beneficial.

You're never gonna be able to enforce any restrictions on private use with the exception of operating a motor vehicle.

If you hate drug dealers that sell to kids make it legal.

If you want your kids buying nickle bags of pot from the guy who also sells Oxys, Xanax and Heroin,......then fight legalization.

Prohibition has never worked.

Use has only increased.

[Mr.Kimball]

[quote=DevilsWin]No its not. Its merely a stimulant, like caffeine.

LSD is a Hallucinogen. Magic Mushrooms are a Hallucinogen. Ecstasy is a Hallucinogen.

And once again, you should learn a word before you use it.






lol.......And once again you make yourself look foolish.


http://www.acde.org/common/Marijana.htm

[C.Clair]

And thats what I am stating. It does not need to be legal to grow your own pot and smoke it or go to the store and buy a pack of joints. Like said earlier I cant smoke my cigerette in public no more with out some one complaining of second hand smoke, but willing to let numerous people toke up on the streets.

Pot smoke and cigerette smoke are very different.

[TheGuyYouLoveToHate]

Pot smoke and cigerette smoke are very different.

I hope you are not trying to say that marijuana smoke is less harmful. :ape:

[Notorious]

Pot smoke and cigerette smoke are very different.

How?

[DevilsWin]

[quote=DevilsWin]No its not. Its merely a stimulant, like caffeine.

LSD is a Hallucinogen. Magic Mushrooms are a Hallucinogen. Ecstasy is a Hallucinogen.

And once again, you should learn a word before you use it.






lol.......And once again you make yourself look foolish.


www.acde.org/common/Marijana.htm

This group has an agenda and is not credible or up to date on the science.

[DevilsWin]

Pot smoke and cigerette smoke are very different.

Cigarettes and Nicotene are more addictive and more damaging than Marijuana.

[DevilsWin]

How?

One gives you cancer, the other gives you the munchies.

[DevilsWin]

To truly understand the usefulness of medicinal marijuana you have to read this interview.

http://www.pr.com/article/1033

[Mr.Kimball]

[quote=Mr.Kimball]

This group has an agenda and is not credible or up to date on the science.

Yeah , Im sure they do. :eyeroll:

And your credible? Are you a doctor now too?


And just what is your agenda? Are you just trying to make yourself as a pothead justifiable?

[Mr.Kimball]

To truly understand the usefulness of medicinal marijuana you have to read this interview.

http://www.pr.com/article/1033

Surely your not going to use anything seen on Montel Williams as evidence of anything being credible. Get Jerry Spriger's views while we're at it.

:lmao:

[Mr.Kimball]

One gives you cancer, the other gives you the munchies.

You are exposed to more cancer causing chemicals in one joint than in 5 tobacco cigarettes.

[Mr.Kimball]

[quote=Mr.Kimball]

This group has an agenda and is not credible or up to date on the science.

Man , you really smoke a bunch of that stuff dont you?

[DevilsWin]

[quote=DevilsWin]

Man , you really smoke a bunch of that stuff dont you?

I don't use it at all genius. What you are doing is ridiculous.

[DevilsWin]

Its impossible to have a sensible debate with you Kimball. All you want to do is make stupid jokes and hijack the thread.

[Mr.Kimball]

Its impossible to have a sensible debate with you Kimball. All you want to do is make stupid jokes and hijack the thread.

Well, you get disputed and proved wrong time and time and time again in all this radical stuff that you always put up on here, I guess that is the only response you can get because you certainly wont own up to none of the falsehoods and misconceptions you post. Just because you think you can bully everybody else around on here (mostly kids) does not mean that it will work on everybody. You aint nearly as controversial as you want others to believe. It's just a cry out for attention. Thank you for acknowleging that I keep you honest. You found out that you cant be mean and smart mouthed with me like you are everyone else, without it coming right back at you. Heck, you aint wanting to debate anything or with anyone to begin with.

[Mr.Kimball]

[quote=Mr.Kimball]
I don't use it at all genius. What you are doing is ridiculous.

Then why all the propaganda of wanting it legalized? Why all the propaganda of everything else you put up on here. Do get a kick out of just being radical, whether you believe in it or not. That's your sole agenda.

[DevilsWin]

Well, you get disputed and proved wrong time and time and time again in all this radical stuff that you always put up on here, I guess that is the only response you can get because you certainly wont own up to none of the falsehoods and misconceptions you post. Just because you think you can bully everybody else around on here (mostly kids) does not mean that it will work on everybody. You aint nearly as controversial as you want others to believe. It's just a cry out for attention. Thank you for acknowleging that I keep you honest. You found out that you cant be mean and smart mouthed with me like you are everyone else, without it coming right back at you. Heck, you aint wanting to debate anything or with anyone to begin with.

I'm just keeping it real.

As for the rest. Balogna! :lmao:

[DevilsWin]

[quote=DevilsWin]

Then why all the propaganda of wanting it legalized? Why all the propaganda of everything else you put up on here. Do get a kick out of just being radical, whether you believe in it or not. That's your sole agenda.

Because that is what is best. That's it. Nothing more nothing less. Thats just what I believe.

I am a little radical to some. Its in the eye of the beholder.

I have some radical views according to both sides of the political spectrum.

You can't pigeonhole me as a lefty or a righty.

[Mr.Kimball]

[quote=Mr.Kimball]

Because that is what is best. That's it. Nothing more nothing less. Thats just what I believe.

I am a little radical to some. Its in the eye of the beholder.

I have some radical views according to both sides of the political spectrum.

You can't pigeonhole me as a lefty or a righty.

On this particlar issue I dont have a problem with medical marijuana use. Heck that's no different than any other type of medicine and has no more of a dangerous threat to society than any of the others. I dont even have a problem with industrial hemp. My grandparents grew it during WWII. The problem I have is with the legalization for recreational use and the access that just about anyone would have to it. There would have to be restrictions on who could grow it and who would be able to have access to it someway, somehow. It's all in how it's controled and administered. However,I dont think that that is what you are advocating and promoting. Tell me how what you are promoting is what's best.

Based on your posts only , if I were pigeonholing you as anyone, I would have to profile you as a dope smoking, atheist, democratic leftist, black man. That's my perception.

[Mr.Kimball]

I'm just keeping it real.

As for the rest. Balogna! :lmao:

Yeah, I'll show you real.:biggrin:

[KINGJAMES#1]

Yeah, I'll show you real.:biggrin:

Seeing you on this thread.. Now I know why you post some of the rediculous stuff ever on other threads. :Thumbs:

[DevilsWin]

[quote=DevilsWin]
On this particlar issue I dont have a problem with medical marijuana use. Heck that's no different than any other type of medicine and has no more of a dangerous threat to society than any of the others. I dont even have a problem with industrial hemp. My grandparents grew it during WWII. The problem I have is with the legalization for recreational use and the access that just about anyone would have to it. There would have to be restrictions on who could grow it and who would be able to have access to it someway, somehow. It's all in how it's controled and administered. However,I dont think that that is what you are advocating and promoting. Tell me how what you are promoting is what's best.

Based on your posts only , if I were pigeonholing you as anyone, I would have to profile you as a dope smoking, atheist, democratic leftist, black man. That's my perception.

:Clap: :lmao: Not hardly. Just an Agent Provocateur!

I can see how you could come to that conclusion though.

[DevilsWin]

[quote=DevilsWin]
On this particlar issue I dont have a problem with medical marijuana use. Heck that's no different than any other type of medicine and has no more of a dangerous threat to society than any of the others. I dont even have a problem with industrial hemp. My grandparents grew it during WWII. The problem I have is with the legalization for recreational use and the access that just about anyone would have to it. There would have to be restrictions on who could grow it and who would be able to have access to it someway, somehow. It's all in how it's controled and administered. However,I dont think that that is what you are advocating and promoting. Tell me how what you are promoting is what's best.

Based on your posts only , if I were pigeonholing you as anyone, I would have to profile you as a dope smoking, atheist, democratic leftist, black man. That's my perception.

I have already done that countless times in previous posts. If you didn't get it go back and you will see. It only makes sense.

If we do what we've always done, we'll get what we've always got.

We need change because people are getting sick as Big Pharma is getting rich the States are going broke and illegal immigrants control the drug trade. The Mexican cartels are freaking out because California has made it legal.

Illegal use is up every year in other states while use is down in California.

The FDA has deemed it safe and prescribes it to 7 people a month already.

[Mr.Kimball]

[quote=Mr.Kimball]

I have already done that countless times in previous posts. If you didn't get it go back and you will see. It only makes sense.

If we do what we've always done, we'll get what we've always got.

We need change because people are getting sick as Big Pharma is getting rich the States are going broke and illegal immigrants control the drug trade. The Mexican cartels are freaking out because California has made it legal.

Illegal use is up every year in other states while use is down in California.

The FDA has deemed it safe and prescribes it to 7 people a month already.

No,what you have done is diminish the bad side of the drug when you allow it to be put freely and uncontrolled into society. You have stated that there is nothing dangerous about it not only with physical issues but also denied it's mind altering tendencies. You have stated the financial benefits, but discounted the disasterous consequences. Are you not the one who made the big deal out of mountain top removal and assigned it as selling your soul to the devil for a few pieces of silver? What do you think you are advocating here? Pretty hypocritical isn't it?

[Mr.Kimball]

Seeing you on this thread.. Now I know why you post some of the rediculous stuff ever on other threads. :Thumbs:

Hey Money Maker, er KJ, go back to the other forum and play with your other little playmates . If you play in this thread you'll have to learn to use words that have more than 3 letters. Your not ready for that yet!!!!

[KINGJAMES#1]

Hey Money Maker, er KJ, go back to the other forum and play with your other little playmates . If you play in this thread you'll have to learn to use words that have more than 3 letters. Your not ready for that yet!!!!

:thatsfunn

:biggrin: I thought you would try to avoid me somehow!! I knew there was something not right about you and now I know why. Mary Jane is calling your name, so I won't argue to much with ya on here.

Peace out dude!! :lmao:

[DevilsWin]

[quote=DevilsWin]

No,what you have done is diminish the bad side of the drug when you allow it to be put freely and uncontrolled into society. You have stated that there is nothing dangerous about it not only with physical issues but also denied it's mind altering tendencies. You have stated the financial benefits, but discounted the disasterous consequences.
Are you not the one who made the big deal out of mountain top removal and assigned it as selling your soul to the devil for a few pieces of silver? What do you think you are advocating here? Pretty hypocritical isn't it?

I'm sorry but you clearly don't understand the issue.

"The bad side of the drug" - That hand is overplayed and old science

"Freely and uncontrolled into society" - I advocate strict licensing, permits and regulation, hardly uncontrolled.

"Nothing Dangerous about it" - Find where I said that. There are long term personality effects but those are minor and only occur in chronic use over and extended period of time. Not a problem for people fighting fatal disease.

Disastrous Consequences" - The wording here is at least sensationalism and overstated. Nothing more than rhetoric a la Hannity" A terrorist attack is a disaster.

Wasn't me. I don't think so.
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I believe we have got it all wrong on this plant and the whole perspective needs to change.


If you want to know the real reason I advocate Medicinal marijuana its very simple and I hope this is the last time I have to explain myself on this matter.

A very dear friend of mine has MS and it is killing her. Slowly but surely. The only relief she gets (because she doesn't do pain pills- she has a daughter to raise) is from marijuana.

Walk a mile in her shoes then come talk to me.